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Old May 13, 2012 | 01:11 PM
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Originally Posted by george44
Alex, you're right, one will enjoy the scenery in any car and I did in my past trips. Driving a sports car would definitely be a bonus, many times during my trips have thought how nice it would have been to have the Porsche or the Audi Quattro with me.

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George, in a car one has to pick the right passes or they can be very frustrating to drive simply because on the narrower twistier passes, you simply cannot get by the car or mobile home (with the NL sticker on the back ) ahead of you.

The Grossglockner is a wide open road and therefore a nice pass in a car. Something like the Splügen Pass on the Italian side would be pure misery in a car; speaking from experience as I can get by cars easily on my motorcycle, but cars are just following each other in a train. Same for the Gavia Pass on the south side.

The best time to go is before July and after September if you want somewhat traffic-free roads. Also very early morning or late evening runs are better.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 03:26 PM
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George, in a car one has to pick the right passes or they can be very frustrating to drive simply because on the narrower twistier passes, you simply cannot get by the car or mobile home (with the NL sticker on the back ) ahead of you.
Thomas had a very derogatory term for any car he saw with a NL sticker which was usually pulling a trailer and mostly up the steepest hill they could find: 'FLATLANDERS'! And said with as much disdain as he could. After coming across a few of them either on the autobahn or in the mountains - I could understand where he was coming from. The Germans for the most part can't stand the Dutch on holidays on their roads. They don't seem to 'get it'. They seem to be like Ontario pensioners over 80 who wonder out to downtown Toronto on the Gardner at 5:00PM on a Friday...

Agree with the mountain passes - nothing would beat a bike here - power to weight ratio and all that fun stuff. 2nd choice if you have to use a car - a Carrera S or of course even better - a Turbo S or GT3RS 4.0!

It's too bad Austria has a max speed limit of 130 - wonderful roads everywhere.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 04:21 PM
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I have heard the German refrain about the Dutch dozens of times, and it truth there does seem to be some Dutch mania for towing large trailers at low speeds on every possible road.
The very worst was decrepit Dutch RV leaking fluid at the Ring. I was a passenger in a car, and my very experienced local driver had me call the hotline and report it right away, as the driver ignored all signals.
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Old May 13, 2012 | 05:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Torontoworker
It's too bad Austria has a max speed limit of 130 - wonderful roads everywhere.
High speed blasts are fun but wear thin after a while. I prefer the narrow twistier back roads. Some of them are so out of the way, you hardly see a car on them. They are well paved but offer very limited sight distance around some of the curves.

Boy, could I lay out some great roads. I've pretty well been on them all in the last 17 years. I'm leading a tour for my friend and wife who are renting a motorcycle for the third year in a row...I warned them...they are hooked, not just on the roads and scenery, but the great food and drink.
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Originally Posted by Ronan
I have heard the German refrain about the Dutch dozens of times, and it truth there does seem to be some Dutch mania for towing large trailers at low speeds on every possible road.
Worse are the truckers who pass each other at a half KPH speed differential on the two-lane autobahns and block passing vehicles; A3 east of Frankfurt and A5 north of Basel for example. That gets the car drivers fuming! And then as one trucker pulls in, another pulls out into the passing lane. I've given them the bird a few times...which carries a hefty fine if caught.

Back to regular programming and pics...back roads in Austria...





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