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Love the mirrors moved onto the doors, too bad they didn't completely remove the plastic filler piece in the front corner of the door glass and I wish they didn't put the body line on the back bumper. It's still great.
#37
interesting to note the dramatic price increase in the USA. i wonder if CDN prices will remain the same as 2011 models given our strong dollar, or if Porsche will find a reason to fleece us and increase it. USA prices have slowing been increasing every year over the entire 997 lifespan, Canadian 997's averaged down with 2011 being the lowest MSRP: 2011 Carrera at $90,100 CDN.
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD
#39
48 years young, next generation of iconic sports car to debut in Frankfurt
MISSISSAUGA - August 23, 2011 --- An all-new, totally-redesigned Porsche 911 will debut this fall. This latest generation of the iconic sports car further extends the span between the apparently contradictory attributes - performance and efficiency, sportiness and everyday practicality - that have always been at the core of its appeal. While unmistakably a 911 from first glance, a lower, leaner silhouette, sharper contours and precisely-designed details hint at substantial changes underneath the skin. Indeed, the new 911 Carrera models represent the largest evolutionary step in the car's 48-year history.
A wheelbase stretched by 100 mm and reduced height, combined with wheels up to 20 inches in diameter, underpin the new 911's athletic appearance while retaining its compact exterior dimensions. Trademark raised fenders emphasize the wider front track, giving the new Carrera models a wider, more stable stance. Remodeled side-view mirrors sit on the upper edges of the doors, improving aerodynamics while emphasizing the visual impression of width. A wider, variably-extending rear spoiler enables a further reduction of lift. Thanks to intelligent aluminum-steel composite construction, the body structure of the new 911 is significantly more rigid than its predecessor, while being up to 45 kg lighter.
To complement the modern exterior design, the new 911's interior architecture features references to the Carrera GT supercar. A high-set centre console, rising toward the dashboard with its standard touch-screen navigation system, gives the driver an additional sense of involvement thanks to a gear selector set close to the steering wheel in typical motorsport fashion. Many classic Porsche elements are also found inside, including an instrument cluster with five round instruments - one of them a high-resolution multifunction screen - with a central rev counter and an ignition lock to the left of the steering wheel.
Setting the standard in its class, as it has for generations, the new 911 models raise the performance and efficiency bar yet another notch. On the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC), all versions consume less than 10 L/100 km. Indeed, fuel consumption and exhaust emissions have both been reduced by up to 16%.
These savings are achieved thanks to systems such as automatic start/stop, thermal management, electrical system recuperation, the world's first seven-speed manual transmission and - in conjunction with the Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (PDK) - a unique "sailing" function that allows coasting with the engine disengaged, to further reduce drivetrain friction. A new electro-mechanical power steering system offers Porsche's typical precision and feedback but also helps to increase efficiency.
Efficiency gains do not come at the expense of power. In fact, the new 911 Carrera, with a downsized 3.4-litre boxer engine, now produces 350 hp (up 5 hp from its predecessor) while consuming just 8.2 L/100 km with the PDK transmission - a 16% reduction. At 194 g/km CO2, it is also the first Porsche sports car with emissions below 200 g/km. The Carrera S, with a revised 3.8-litre boxer engine, now produces 400 hp (up 15) with fuel consumption reduced by 14% to 8.7 L/100 km and CO2 emissions of 205 g/km.
With more power and less weight, performance is improved in both models. The Carrera S with PDK accelerates to 100 km/h in 4.3 seconds, 4.1 seconds with the launch control feature of the optional Sport Chrono package. The Carrera with PDK does the same sprint in 4.6 seconds, 4.4 seconds with Sport Chrono. The all-new platform also delivers improved stability and handling thanks to the wider front track, the new rear axle and electro-mechanical power steering. On the 911 Carrera S, an optional Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) active roll stabilization system is available for the first time. It further reduces body roll when cornering, keeping the tires in optimally positioned relative to the road surface - and thus increasing cornering speeds and improving lap times at the track.
The latest Porsche 911 will celebrate its world premiere at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show in September and will go on sale in Canada in February. Prices start at $93,700 for the 3.4-litre 911 Carrera and $110,000 for the 3.8-litre Carrera S.
The latest Porsche 911 will celebrate its world premiere at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show in September and will go on sale in Canada in February.
Prices start at $93,700 for the 3.4-litre 911 Carrera and $110,000 for the 3.8-litre Carrera S.
MISSISSAUGA - August 23, 2011 --- An all-new, totally-redesigned Porsche 911 will debut this fall. This latest generation of the iconic sports car further extends the span between the apparently contradictory attributes - performance and efficiency, sportiness and everyday practicality - that have always been at the core of its appeal. While unmistakably a 911 from first glance, a lower, leaner silhouette, sharper contours and precisely-designed details hint at substantial changes underneath the skin. Indeed, the new 911 Carrera models represent the largest evolutionary step in the car's 48-year history.
A wheelbase stretched by 100 mm and reduced height, combined with wheels up to 20 inches in diameter, underpin the new 911's athletic appearance while retaining its compact exterior dimensions. Trademark raised fenders emphasize the wider front track, giving the new Carrera models a wider, more stable stance. Remodeled side-view mirrors sit on the upper edges of the doors, improving aerodynamics while emphasizing the visual impression of width. A wider, variably-extending rear spoiler enables a further reduction of lift. Thanks to intelligent aluminum-steel composite construction, the body structure of the new 911 is significantly more rigid than its predecessor, while being up to 45 kg lighter.
To complement the modern exterior design, the new 911's interior architecture features references to the Carrera GT supercar. A high-set centre console, rising toward the dashboard with its standard touch-screen navigation system, gives the driver an additional sense of involvement thanks to a gear selector set close to the steering wheel in typical motorsport fashion. Many classic Porsche elements are also found inside, including an instrument cluster with five round instruments - one of them a high-resolution multifunction screen - with a central rev counter and an ignition lock to the left of the steering wheel.
Setting the standard in its class, as it has for generations, the new 911 models raise the performance and efficiency bar yet another notch. On the New European Driving Cycle (NEDC), all versions consume less than 10 L/100 km. Indeed, fuel consumption and exhaust emissions have both been reduced by up to 16%.
These savings are achieved thanks to systems such as automatic start/stop, thermal management, electrical system recuperation, the world's first seven-speed manual transmission and - in conjunction with the Porsche-Doppelkupplungsgetriebe (PDK) - a unique "sailing" function that allows coasting with the engine disengaged, to further reduce drivetrain friction. A new electro-mechanical power steering system offers Porsche's typical precision and feedback but also helps to increase efficiency.
Efficiency gains do not come at the expense of power. In fact, the new 911 Carrera, with a downsized 3.4-litre boxer engine, now produces 350 hp (up 5 hp from its predecessor) while consuming just 8.2 L/100 km with the PDK transmission - a 16% reduction. At 194 g/km CO2, it is also the first Porsche sports car with emissions below 200 g/km. The Carrera S, with a revised 3.8-litre boxer engine, now produces 400 hp (up 15) with fuel consumption reduced by 14% to 8.7 L/100 km and CO2 emissions of 205 g/km.
With more power and less weight, performance is improved in both models. The Carrera S with PDK accelerates to 100 km/h in 4.3 seconds, 4.1 seconds with the launch control feature of the optional Sport Chrono package. The Carrera with PDK does the same sprint in 4.6 seconds, 4.4 seconds with Sport Chrono. The all-new platform also delivers improved stability and handling thanks to the wider front track, the new rear axle and electro-mechanical power steering. On the 911 Carrera S, an optional Porsche Dynamic Chassis Control (PDCC) active roll stabilization system is available for the first time. It further reduces body roll when cornering, keeping the tires in optimally positioned relative to the road surface - and thus increasing cornering speeds and improving lap times at the track.
The latest Porsche 911 will celebrate its world premiere at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show in September and will go on sale in Canada in February. Prices start at $93,700 for the 3.4-litre 911 Carrera and $110,000 for the 3.8-litre Carrera S.
The latest Porsche 911 will celebrate its world premiere at the 2011 Frankfurt Motor Show in September and will go on sale in Canada in February.
Prices start at $93,700 for the 3.4-litre 911 Carrera and $110,000 for the 3.8-litre Carrera S.
#40
cool, so prices are:
US Pricing
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD (4300 increase)
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD (5900 increase)
Canadian Pricing
2011 Carrera $90,100 CAD
2011 Carrera S $104,900 CAD
2012 Carrera $93,700 CAD (3600 increase - 14% premium over US price)
2012 Carrera S $110,000 CAD (5100 increase - 14% premium)
US Pricing
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD (4300 increase)
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD (5900 increase)
Canadian Pricing
2011 Carrera $90,100 CAD
2011 Carrera S $104,900 CAD
2012 Carrera $93,700 CAD (3600 increase - 14% premium over US price)
2012 Carrera S $110,000 CAD (5100 increase - 14% premium)
#41
I hate depreciation and would never purchase a new 911
cool, so prices are:
US Pricing
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD (4300 increase)
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD (5900 increase)
Canadian Pricing
2011 Carrera $90,100 CAD
2011 Carrera S $104,900 CAD
2012 Carrera $93,700 CAD (3600 increase - 14% premium over US price)
2012 Carrera S $110,000 CAD (5100 increase - 14% premium)
US Pricing
2011 Carrera $77,800 USD
2011 Carrera S $90,500 USD
2012 Carrera $82,100 USD (4300 increase)
2012 Carrera S $96,400 USD (5900 increase)
Canadian Pricing
2011 Carrera $90,100 CAD
2011 Carrera S $104,900 CAD
2012 Carrera $93,700 CAD (3600 increase - 14% premium over US price)
2012 Carrera S $110,000 CAD (5100 increase - 14% premium)
#42
Rennlist Member
To be completely fair you must concede that used 911s depreciate as well...unless you're taking 993 or older. Obviously the real cash difference is less but they depreciate nonetheless.
I bought the 2007 for 40% of what the original buyer paid. That said, I can imagine it will depreciate another 30% over the next 5 years.
I believe 997s will hit mid 20s, 996s will settle in mid teens. 993 and 964 will stay where they are.
This is a massive generalization as GT models will always retain more value and, historically, Turbos do pretty well.
I bought the 2007 for 40% of what the original buyer paid. That said, I can imagine it will depreciate another 30% over the next 5 years.
I believe 997s will hit mid 20s, 996s will settle in mid teens. 993 and 964 will stay where they are.
This is a massive generalization as GT models will always retain more value and, historically, Turbos do pretty well.