Imo000

Nah.... this is where youare wrong. The cheapest set of winter tires is better than the best set of all seasons. I have a set of winters for my DD that I usually put on around mid to end November and they come off when the temps stay above +10C for at least a week. Been dong this for almost 7 years.

My main route is the 401 aqnd 407 every day and the it is money well spent getting a winter set. You WILL notice the difference between an all season and winters when the temps drop. Winter compunds stay soft in cold while all seasons become harder and harder. In the long run, you are actually extending the life of your summer tires by not using hte m in the winter. Only the initial cost is more but at the end it all equals out. The only additional cost is a set of rims but even with those, you will save as you won't have to pay $75 each season swapping them out. Once you get a set of winters, you will understand what I and others are talking about. I would never agian have a DD in the winter witout winter tires.....never. My oppinion is that this should become a law, just like in Quebec.

AM993

And to illustrate Imre's comments, watch this video:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlYEM...ext=1&index=89

LastMezger

20 foot reduction (almost 50%) in stopping distance from 10 mph!

Winter tires are a must for winter conditions. It's not just slush, snow and ice but even on "dry" pavement in freezing conditions a summer or all season tire can have very little grip.

Look at it this way...you get to buy even more cool rims;-)

peritus

Wha ho ho, everyone.. hold your horsies! In my original post, I said I was looking for winter tires for the winter. I had Blizzaks on my A6 quattro, and I think it accelerated on ice as fast as it did on dry pavement.

I'm with you (all).. however, I don't need a sticky summer tire that'll wear out quickly since I don't plan to push the limits of this car. I like that these supersport all seasons will be good and practical for those in-between season stages.

If I see some track time, then I'll change my tire strategy.

pontifex4

James, I'm running the Hankook Ventus V12 Evo 110 and they're a nice, docile (even comfortable and quiet) summer tire and are quite cheap. You'll pay as much for all seasons as they cost at Tire Rack, so I think they may be worth a look.

Also, this thread is useless without pictures!

peritus

Pics coming, I PROMISE!

The real issue here is that I am too impatient, and those all-seasons were the only tires that were available in my size in a 24h time period. The old rubber was so bad, I wouldn't even roll it more than 10m on grass, downhill, so we'll see how these do.

If I start going sideways while driving down the 401 at the speedlimit, or if they are noisy, or if they compromise my driving style or the performance of the car, I'll kijiji them and get some proper summers.

Thanks for the tip Charlie.

Sultan

fyi - i've got some D90's aswell if you are looking.

peritus

PM Sent

peritus

These pics were taken about 3 years ago by the PPO.

She needs an afternoon with Dr. Dent and his surgical utensils, but the interior is literally brand new.

LastMezger

Looks great!

AM993

What's her name ?

peritus

I was thinking something like... BlackDeath, or The Widower, or Darth Vroomer, or maybe something simple like... Blackie!

hpuck

James,

Congratulations on your new 964 - it's a beauty.

Was really nice to meet you guys. All the best in your new venture.

Bill

LastMezger

Sorry if I missed it skimming through the thread but how many clicks a year do you plan on putting on the car commuting? You might want to consider an operating cost/experience blog or something. Assuming you're willing to share that mind of information I think it would be quite interesting.

So few people drive them daily...heck, virtually no Porsche is driven daily...unfortunately.

peritus

Bill, your 993 is in impeccable condition, and it was among the top on my list of 993s! It's too nice to drive in the winter as well, so would have been a garage queen, which is quite alright.

Whoever does end up with your Targa will be very lucky.

It was nice meeting you as well, and thank you!