CPO cars
10-10-2009, 11:59 PM
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In that case, definitely buy CPO cars from Pfaff because I was there this afternoon and was surprised to find out that they have a minimum of 70-75%!!! Don't ask me how you can have a range for a minimum.
10-11-2009, 03:00 PM
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Here`s what the hwy traffic act says:
R.R.O. 1990, REGULATION 611
SAFETY INSPECTIONS
Consolidation Period: From May 1, 2009 to the e-Laws currency date.
TIRES AND WHEELS
(a) except for front tires on a vehicle in excess of 4,500 kilograms gross vehicle weight rating, no tire shall be worn sufficiently,
(i) for the tread wear indicators to contact the road, or
(ii) that less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth remains,
in any two adjacent major grooves at three equally spaced intervals around the circumference of the tire
SCHEDULE 2
INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR WHEEL BRAKE INTERNAL COMPONENTS OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND MOTOR VEHICLES
(f) no bonded lining shall be thinner than 1.5 millimetres when measured at the thinnest point;
It makes very little sense why the dealer should say it needs 50%, 70% or even 75% to pass a CPO. It`s all smoke and mirrors at some level.
These are non-warranty items to begin with....... and as long as they pass Ontario Dept of Hwy safety inspection specs it should fly, otherwise it`s just another way for dealers to pass on added expense to you and profit to themselves.
For Mattau to suggest Pfaff maintains a higher standard because of what they told him, again, smoke and mirrors.... this expense just gets added to your bottom line.
R.R.O. 1990, REGULATION 611
SAFETY INSPECTIONS
Consolidation Period: From May 1, 2009 to the e-Laws currency date.
TIRES AND WHEELS
(a) except for front tires on a vehicle in excess of 4,500 kilograms gross vehicle weight rating, no tire shall be worn sufficiently,
(i) for the tread wear indicators to contact the road, or
(ii) that less than 1.5 millimetres of tread depth remains,
in any two adjacent major grooves at three equally spaced intervals around the circumference of the tire
SCHEDULE 2
INSPECTION REQUIREMENTS AND PERFORMANCE STANDARDS FOR WHEEL BRAKE INTERNAL COMPONENTS OF COMMERCIAL VEHICLES AND MOTOR VEHICLES
(f) no bonded lining shall be thinner than 1.5 millimetres when measured at the thinnest point;
It makes very little sense why the dealer should say it needs 50%, 70% or even 75% to pass a CPO. It`s all smoke and mirrors at some level.
These are non-warranty items to begin with....... and as long as they pass Ontario Dept of Hwy safety inspection specs it should fly, otherwise it`s just another way for dealers to pass on added expense to you and profit to themselves.
For Mattau to suggest Pfaff maintains a higher standard because of what they told him, again, smoke and mirrors.... this expense just gets added to your bottom line.
10-11-2009, 03:13 PM
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I was being sarcastic. Having said that, there is a reason why CPO cars have more than just enough to pass safety. Think about it, you just drop $80,000 on a CPO car, the next think you want is to shell out another $2,500 for tires within weeks. It's much easier to convince you to pay $82,000 for a car that comes with brand new tires. At the end, you are still be paying for the tires, the sad thing is, you could have enjoyed that last 30% of thread and defer the purchase.
10-11-2009, 04:26 PM
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i'd like to see a CPO cover tires and brakes .. even Zook couldn't pull that rabit out of the hat .. i guess the CPO you are paying for is that you are buying a Porsche certified used car .. not just a one that passes the goverments minimum expectation ...
personally I think the wear item claims are all crap anyway ...
personally I think the wear item claims are all crap anyway ...
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10-11-2009, 05:26 PM
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I think you're missing the point. A CPO warranty basically gives you the same coverage as the new car warranty but for only 2 additional years over whatever remains from the OE warranty. No new vehicle warranty covers consumable items like tires and brakes. To sell it as a CPO, the dealer must inspect and sometimes recondition certain wear items on it to make sure it meets the Porsche criteria for CPO. Tires must be matched approved "N" spec tires and must have sufficient tread life left; same goes for the brakes. Doesn't mean that they will put new ones on every time though; only if they are worn below a certain level.