fc-racer

The camera is cheap. It's $179 from www.goprocamera.com It comes with a very well made suction cup mount and sticky mounts you can use with your helmet, etc. It's waterproof too so you can use it outside. I don't think I had the various adjustments tight enough which is why it still moved around a bit. I'll have to experiment more on placement. Kinda spooky how you can see my eyes in the rear view mirror. I placed the camera randomly as there is no easy to see viewfinder.

mdex

The really shocking thing was that was Emp's first lap out... though it was a high 1:31, almost a 1:32...top down, and 2 adults in the car... the point is that we are all weekend warriors no matter how good we may be in our context compared to the pros (and Emp may be the best Canada has produced) we have a long way to go... I would be sure that Emp and the other pro's would be in the 1:25's in a set up gt3.

As for the vid.. you are smooth, and it is hard to judge from web video, but you seem to be turning in late, yet apexing early in many spots.... it isn't just about hitting the pylons (and they are off in places) but your total trajectory through the corners that matters.... a little work and you will have 5 to 10 seconds off your time I am sure!

Marc

fc-racer

Found some interesting lap times for GT3's at Mosport at roughly 1:23-25's for 997 GT3 Cup cars: http://www.ngtmotorsport.com/Results...rt-Results.pdf

Also, some cool info on lap records that were recently broken in 2007 at Mosport. There is a race 997 GT3 (not sure if it's a Cup or RSR) in there that set a new record at 1:23.2. I would think a street GT3 would be several seconds slower than that:

Mosport lap records established in 2007

CLASS TYPE DRIVER/CAR DATE TIME MPH KM/H

OUTRIGHT Qual: Dindo Capello, Audi R10 TDI Aug. 2007 1:05.829 134.476 218.748

ALMS P1 Qual: Dindo Capello, Audi R10 TDI Aug. 2007 1:05.829 134.476 218.748

Race: Marco Werner, Audi R10 TD Aug. 2007 1:06.371 133.377 216.962

ALMS P2 Qual: Romain Dumas, Porsche RS Spyder Aug. 2007 1:05.919 134.292 218.449

(Revised class) Race Ryan Briscoe, Porsche RS Spyder Aug. 2007 1:06.490 133.138 216.573


ALMS GT2 Qual: Jaime Melo, Ferrari 430 GT Aug. 2007 1:17.841 113.724 184.992

Race: Jaime Melo, Ferrari 430 GT Aug. 2007 1:18.539 112.713 183.348


Formula BMW Race: Daniel Morad, Formula BMW FB02 Aug. 2007 1:23.464 106.062 172.529

USA

IMSA GT3 Race: Tom Papadopoulos, Porsche/997 Aug. 2007 1:23.260 106.322 172.952

Cup Challenge

IMSA Lites L1 Qual: Gerardo Bonilla, Elan DP02 Aug. 2007 1:19.214 111.752 181.786

Race: Gerardo Bonilla, Elan DP02 Aug. 2007 1:19.214 111.752 181.786

IMSA Lites L2 Qual: Dan McBreen, West WR1000 Aug. 2007 1:22.504 107.297 174.536

Race: Dan McBreen, West WR1000 Aug. 2007 1:22.861 106.834 173.785


IMSA Lites L3 Qual: Richard Spicer, FSCCA Sports Car Aug. 2007 1:24.937 104.223 169.537

Race: Richard Spicer, FSCCA Sports Car Aug. 2007 1:25.080 104.047 169.252

NASCAR Qual: Andrew Ranger, Ford Fusion June 2007 1:25.436 103.614 168.547

Cdn. Tire Series Race: Andrew Ranger, Ford Fusion June 2007 1:25.881 103.077 165.871

From Lee Bailie, Mosport

fc-racer

How about these times: http://www.paddocktalk.com/news/html...icle&sid=84602

1:35.999 for an Miata MX-5 cup car!!! It's time to sell the GT3 and get something light and disposable to drive...

TurboS

Next track day which may be this Thursday with Apex, I'm going to ask Scott Mackenzie(Instructor) to drive my car without the extra 200 or so pounds in the passenger seat, and see what's up.

TurboS

Last time approx 250, it's not the best time to be staring at your speedo.

rideau

FC-Racer
Thanks for the video. I found the tip on lifting off before the hump/braking after to be instructive...will try tomorrow.

fire_n_ice

Let us know how that goes. I'm still chipping away at the braking zone in the Z. Basically, I'm lifting right before the crest and then squeezing the brakes as soon as it is cleared. However, I always have way more than enough brakes to slow for 8. Problem is, if the Z is still on the juice over the crest, it gets light (Matt did it once with me shotgun and the back end had a squirm and a shimmy).

One thing that struck me as odd about the way Apex had the flag stations- they used the tower at the very end of the back straight. So, there was a point, right before the first crest earlier on the straight, where you couldn't see over the crest and you couldn't see the flag tower. Since you'd also be doing approx 200 km/h at this point, I was wondering whey they would set it up like that. Seems to me if somebody in front of you lost it just over that first crest, you would have no warning that they would be sitting in the middle of the track as you cleared it.

fire_n_ice

That's incredible. I drove the Miata cup car at Laguna Seca and they are just not that powerful. In fact the engine/tranny is stock Miata. But it does handle like a S.O.B. I'm guessing that you can take turn 4 at Mosport flat-out, for example, as well as several other sections. Man, you would just have a ton of time to make up for the discrepancy in power going down Andretti.

Drove Boxsters out there, too, and they are no joke in the handling dept. In the right hands, you can drive those things on the limit all day long. In fact, I came very close to buying a Cayman S instead of the Z (and probably would have if the Z prices hadn't come down so much).

mdex

The really fast guys don't slow down much (if at all) for 1, 2, 4, or 8....... and they have 10 to 30 km/h more cornering speed coming out of 5b.

Don't ask me how they do it though!

Marc

fc-racer

I think the best way to approach Mosport is to not bring a $150k car that you owe money on I'm looking at some used 944 Turbos and 993's where someone has already spent a lot of money converting into a track-car.

I think I'd enjoy doing that much more. I would still be cautious at Mosport and treat it with respect, but with a less expensive car, I'd feel more comfortable building up to the limits on this daunting track. I felt terrible for the fellow who lost his street car this weekend and it was at the lowest speed part of the track. I can't imagine the wreckage of a car going off at 8, 2, 4 or 5a or pretty much any corner!

Turbodan

what turn and what type of car was wrecked btw
firenice: what is "z" car? nissan ? Iroc?
Farzan: ucr site has an 86 951 white that looks pretty well modded and taken care of for about $12k...no affiliation, never seen it etc...

webbie

Going off any corner at Mosport is costly. I have seen peoples totaled their car at corner 1,2,3,4,5,8,9,10

Corner 8 could be the least costly among all since they just paved the runoff this year.

rost12

I've seen a guy go into a hospital after hitting the inside wall at 1. Given that he was in a fully prepped car with integrated cage, helmet, hans, etc... one serious impact.

Shannonville/Dunville anyone?

fire_n_ice

Sorry, the "Z" is my Z06. Pics: http://ontrackdriver.com/showthread.php?t=2

Yes, Mosport must be respected at all times. This year I've seen cars totaled at 5B and 9.

That's a good idea to get a cheaper, lighter, stiffer car, track prepped and fitted with all the safety equip. I've been thinking about that myself, as soon as I have the garage space.