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Old 10-30-2007 | 04:59 PM
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Hello guys,
This car is still for sale https://rennlist.com/forums/rennlist-canada/368874-fs-1998-993-cabriolet-53-900-a.html
The new price is $44 000. No haggle, no nonsense. This is a very good car in very good condition with history and owned by a Porsche specialist service shop manager. It is a Canadian market vehicle.
My new car is here, and I can't really drive it in good spirits until the old car is gone.
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You're killing me man! I'd love to have your 993...but I know that I'd have to take a bath on mine right now...and my wife won't let me have 2 p-cars hogging up the whole garage!
Old 11-04-2007 | 04:53 PM
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If you decide to list it on eBay....let me know....I might just be one of the bidders!
Old 11-04-2007 | 11:32 PM
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Gawd that is cheap. Nice looking car too. Any stories ?

I just sold a 1997 993 C2 cabrio for $57,500 last week. It had 43K on it.

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No stories whatsoever. Car is Canadian, clean, never been hit, doesn't leak a drop of anything. Serviced properly, blah, blah, blah. It would appear everyone in this country thinks you have to go to the states for a good deal (I promise not to embark on 'that' rant here). Just need to sell the car and free up some space for my new ride (the M Coupe track rat project). Time of year sucks, market sucks to sell cars, I can't sell a car to save my own life, etc. The excuses are endless, but the fact of the matter is that the car is good and deserves a good home. Any takers at $43 000?
PS: Thanks for the compliments, I too think its a looker!
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Old 11-06-2007 | 11:59 PM
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Originally Posted by SCAN Automotive
It would appear everyone in this country thinks you have to go to the states for a good deal
So true eh ? You have to sit people down and break out all the numbers so they understand what is involved.
Old 11-07-2007 | 09:20 AM
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It's an awful time of year to sell a car. When I was selling my boxster, I was getting ridiculously lowball offers in the fall. I said screw it, hibernated it for the winter, and in the spring got much better offers. That said, I did learn the lesson that the market will rule, everyone wants to haggle because nobody wants to pay asking price, and if it's not selling it's priced too high for the current market.

I'll still argue that better deals are to be found in the states, especially considering there's much more selection, so it's easier to find exactly what you want. And with the way the dollar is now, the deals are that much better. However with the downturn in Canadian prices (because of this) the savings are less, and the hassle is the same, so I think a lot of people are happy to pay an extra 5% to save the hassles.
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James....you have a PM!
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It's not just pure financial reasons that the car would be a decent deal, but that it is owned by a Porsche specialist service shop Manager, it is a Canadian market car, and is a complete car with proper history and certifiably no accidents. If I were to tell the stories of each and every supposed 'good deal' that I have seen come out of the States that would be a very long post indeed.

Don't get me wrong, there are also some fantastic deals and definitely more selection down south. I have bought three cars for personal use in the States and each and every one was something I couldn't find in Canada, and I happened to save a few bucks each time as a bonus:

2004 BMW Z4 3.0 in '05 couldn't find a white on black one here in Canada,

2003 Carrera 4S in '05 couldn't find an arctic silver on black one here with good history as there were only 4 for sale in the entire country at the time and they were all very wrong,

2006 BMW M Coupe a month ago couldn't find one here in the right colours for less than $70K, they retail new 07's in the US for $54K)

The common thread here is that they were all practically new cars, which goes along with my 'apples are apples' argument. A new car is a new car whether it comes from Mars or Morocco. When they are ten years old, as is the case with the latest of the 993's, they could be rotten apples or they may be very well preserved still-life specimens or any state of decomposition in-between. Finding a car in very good mechanical and cosmetic condition, that drives solidly, that performs properly, that is the package of options and colours that you want and has been in good hands is not the case with all ten year old cars. This is a good example of one, not all the cars on Ebay listed in Florida for $24K USD are equivalent cars, and they certainly aren't local with properly documented history.

There's the rant, sorry I couldn't hold it in.
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Hey James,

Sorry you've been having a hard time selling your car. That sucks.

Folks, I know James and he's a class act. I also trust him to work on my GT3 so that's saying something about the faith I have in him. If you buy this car from him you won't be disappointed.
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With a car like yours, the "non-financial" reasons you list would be what would attract me, if I were a potential buyer. I'd much rather pay an extra $5K or more for a car with proper service documentation, owned by someone who not only knows what they're doing, but cares enough to do it right, and even better someone that owns a shop - my way of thinking is that you get parts and labour way cheaper than we do, so there's a significantly higher chance that your car will be better serviced than someone else's, even if they're just as conscientious and caring. Of course, a lot of people will just look for the lowest price tag that marginally passes a PPI - that's what I did on my first buy. I got lucky, but I wouldn't do it again.

Sorry if I get my back up when I hear that line about a "Canadian market car". It reminds me of the twits at Pfaff Porsche in Toronto who try to scare potential buyers out of shopping in the states because the car won't be worth as much once imported, which is complete BS. It's the same nuts and bolts and the same Hans and Fritz (except in the case of my boxster, where it was Markus and Jarko). My boxster sold for every bit as much as supposed "Canadian market" that were available at the same time, in fact even a bit more because it was in such nice shape, and it was fully disclosed that it was a US car.

I'd still say hang onto it throughout the winter and try to sell again in the spring. Even as early as March, I started getting the odd email. By April there was much more interest, by the first week of May it was gone to its new home.
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I made James an offer this morning, albeit not exactly what he was asking....but I left it open 'til Christmas, hoping that he might consider it between now and then if it does not sell. So I might be somewhat biased on my thoughts....I'll keep them to myself for now. My own personal dilemma is that if I buy his 993 now, I'll have to take a bath on my 964 and probably have to wholesale it. (Keith....are you interested in a nice 964 Cab??!) I know......not James' problem, but something I have to take into consideration.

I'm heading down to Vegas at the end of the month for 4 days....out of curiousity, I'll see what the local market is like down there for a 993. But I am willing to pay a few extra grand to buy one in Canada, and not have to deal with border issues, duty, GST, etc.

James seems like a sincere type of guy from what I gather in his response to me....and I wish him all the best. Hopefully for his sake, he'll find someone willing to pay close to his asking price.
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Originally Posted by SCAN Automotive
Don't get me wrong, there are also some fantastic deals and definitely more selection down south. I have bought three cars for personal use in the States and each and every one was something I couldn't find in Canada, and I happened to save a few bucks each time as a bonus:

2004 BMW Z4 3.0 in '05 couldn't find a white on black one here in Canada,

2003 Carrera 4S in '05 couldn't find an arctic silver on black one here with good history as there were only 4 for sale in the entire country at the time and they were all very wrong,

2006 BMW M Coupe a month ago couldn't find one here in the right colours for less than $70K, they retail new 07's in the US for $54K)

The common thread here is that they were all practically new cars, which goes along with my 'apples are apples' argument. A new car is a new car whether it comes from Mars or Morocco. When they are ten years old, as is the case with the latest of the 993's, they could be rotten apples or they may be very well preserved still-life specimens or any state of decomposition in-between. Finding a car in very good mechanical and cosmetic condition, that drives solidly, that performs properly, that is the package of options and colours that you want and has been in good hands is not the case with all ten year old cars. This is a good example of one, not all the cars on Ebay listed in Florida for $24K USD are equivalent cars, and they certainly aren't local with properly documented history.

There's the rant, sorry I couldn't hold it in.
Well stated. I've been trying to sell my TT for the summer here in TO. Now it will be tucked away for the winter and I'll try to sell it in the spring...again.
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Allan, hope all is well with the GT3. I am still under retainer to Tweety, but I may have some fresh ideas for your Sylvester! Sorry to hear you were out for the last autoX, I was as well, although for more pleasant reasons. Thanks for the kind words, I try to be helpful!

I think the car may just hold on until Spring when the prices are a little helped out by the better driving weather.

James
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Originally Posted by SCAN Automotive
... If I were to tell the stories of each and every supposed 'good deal' that I have seen come out of the States that would be a very long post indeed.

Don't get me wrong, there are also some fantastic deals and definitely more selection down south. I have bought three cars for personal use in the States and each and every one was something I couldn't find in Canada, and I happened to save a few bucks each time as a bonus:

2003 Carrera 4S in '05 couldn't find an arctic silver on black one here with good history as there were only 4 for sale in the entire country at the time and they were all very wrong,
Hey that's my car!!
Hi James,
yes I can certainly vouch for the care you take in finding and buying your cars...that's why I bought your C4S. Many of the guys in TO are familiar with my car and with the meticulous and exhaustive records that came with it. It wasn't the cheapest C4S, but it was the most special example in Canada or the US at the time and you know how long and hard I searched! Pfaff is still pissed at me for not buying one of their overpriced and under-equipped cars.

Somebody buy his 993 cab, it's a good deal!


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