100 Octane Gas Available?
Drifting
Joined: Apr 2009
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From: Montreal,Canada
Yup - I ran C12 in one of my cars (it is the VP Racing equivalent to the the 112 octane leaded Sunoco Supreme that the pump at Mosport carries) and have actually bought a drum of C12 from presumably the very same gentleman from Cornwall that advertises in Inside Track Magazine. You definitely don't want C12 in a street car, but they most certainly love the 260 GTX (98 unleaded).
I bought a drum once but the fuel was red, too conspicuous in clear white VP fuel jugs , makes people talk at the track !
Cheers
Phil
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Nordschleife Master
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From: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
100oct from the pump I don't think it exists in Canada unfortunately. If you are stock, you're wasting your money. If you have a tune, then yes, you could up the boost and timing.MS109 is is about 100oct, its pricey stuff. Shell 93 Oct is the best fuel I could find around Alberta and BC.
Banned
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From: Mid Town Toronto
It's not necessary for all gasoline sold in ontario to contain ethanol, just most of it. It would be possible for an independent in toronto to sell E0, if they felt there was money to be made. The ethanol is a federal reg, not an ontario one.
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From: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
The Ministry of the Environment, Conservation and Parks regulates the amount of renewable content found in gasoline sold in Ontario. Starting in 2020, fuel suppliers must maintain at least an annual average of 10% renewable content (such as ethanol) in the gasoline they sell in Ontario.
Burning Brakes
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Already discussed in a different thread (https://rennlist.com/forums/rennlist...w-ethanol.html). See line in bold at the bottom of the paragraph:
From The Cleaner Transportation Fuels regulation (O. Reg. 663/20) at https://www.ontario.ca/page/cleaner-...rtation-fuels:
You are considered a supplier if you:
For example, an independently-owned retail station in Kingston:
In other words, that independently-owned retail station in Kingston in their example can sell all the Ethanol-free fuel they want depending on where it is sourced. This is nothing new - it has been in place since 2020. It's exactly how the pump at Mosport continues to legally operate, and they don't sell ANY fuel that contains Ethanol.
From The Cleaner Transportation Fuels regulation (O. Reg. 663/20) at https://www.ontario.ca/page/cleaner-...rtation-fuels:
Who must comply
You must comply with the law if you supply gasoline or diesel fuel to the Ontario market.You are considered a supplier if you:
- manufacture diesel, blended diesel, gasoline or blended gasoline — and use or sell it in Ontario (wholesale or retail)
- import diesel, blended diesel, gasoline or blended gasoline into the province — and use or sell it in Ontario (wholesale or retail)
- acquire diesel, blended diesel, gasoline or blended gasoline through an inter-refiner agreement — and use or sell it in Ontario (wholesale or retail)
For example, an independently-owned retail station in Kingston:
- sells 1 million litres of gasoline or diesel at its outlet
- of the 1 million litres sold, 100,000 litres of gasoline or diesel were imported from the U.S. directly by the retail station
- the other 900,000 litres of gasoline or diesel sold were already placed in the Ontario market by the wholesaler that supplied the gasoline or diesel to the retail station
In other words, that independently-owned retail station in Kingston in their example can sell all the Ethanol-free fuel they want depending on where it is sourced. This is nothing new - it has been in place since 2020. It's exactly how the pump at Mosport continues to legally operate, and they don't sell ANY fuel that contains Ethanol.
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