bcrdukes

I read it as a sarcastic statement. I don't think he's serious.

Gregster

you don’t have to tell me how much of a piece of junk that engine is. I have a pile of cores in the corner of the shop. Nothing saves those engines. You are also forgetting that these engines are now in cars with their 3rd or 4th owner. 5000km intervals won’t do anything stick to 8k with quality products and you are fine. What about VW using micro screens everywhere that clog up with junk from the guides, other screens etc. But not all the flaws in that engine are because of oil changes. It’s VW being cheap. However what you posted was caused by tensioner failure or chain stretch give how the crank gear is worn out. You can measure chain stretch with vagcom. That chain was either off the cam gears or was getting cam cam/crank timing codes or fuel codes or both…


At + - 5 I will suggest replacement
I had one in recently where oil was dripping into cyl 2 causing a misfire.

bcrdukes

For the record, which models/model years are affected by this problem? I cannot help but feel that my cousin who purchased a 2018 Macan GTS is going to regret this.

Abe Evrens

2018 GTS NOT part of this problem from what I know. The EA888 engine is VW based 2,0litre Turbo found in the Audi Q5 which is total sh-t ! Why do I know this? I had a 2015 Audi Q5 2,0T - the rings are too small - all known and love to "burn oil". The 2018 Macan GTS is a V6 variant and NOTHING To do w/ the VW engines that came in later. Belt tensioner issues are known for 2018 so ask your cousin to check for oil leaks - its a $2500 job in Canada.

bcrdukes

His is leaking oil because of some bolts which is known to be a problem? it's currently at Beverly Hills Porsche being performed under warranty, and usually a $10K job as he told me? (I am not sure, sorry.)

Abe Evrens

My master tech told me specifically "to change the oil every 5000 km" on my 2018 GTS Macan. He was VERY specific on this point and have known him and trust him for years. He doesn't care where its done BUT to simply DO IT. Its cheap insurance and my engine is a V6 (not a VW variant 2,0T crap which is found in Audi's which I had one and know all FULL well on the issues) .... Tks

teal986

I always do oil changes for my cars every year regardless of the mileage, even if that means dropping oil with 1k on it. The filter too.

It's cheap and easy and gives me piece of mind.

If you don't mind the expense of a shorter interval and it helps you sleep at night, I say have at it

reacp911

I used to dump the oil with a few K on it from my 911, and run it in my Saturn. No lie

IXLR8

I have to wonder how all those cars with well over 200K kilometers that drive on the Autobahn at 200 kph get by with 20K Long Life oil.

On my 911s due to extremely low miles, I change my oil and filter prior to winter layaway. On my daily driver I'd change the oil twice a year with a max of 12K kilometers between changes, spring and fall.

adsingl

Modern full synthetic oils, short of many high speed driving event (hobbyist) days or race conditions, will easily run for 10,000 miles or more.
The problem is the oil will get really dirty as while there are variations and some filters are better than others, in general, they aren't much different than the old cannisters from 1950s and spin-ons that begin in 1960s. Mostly paper pleats that have "absolute/98.7%" efficiency at 25-30 microns. If you see a filter that says only "10 microns" without an efficiency, it's not very meaningful, maybe it's 50% efficient, which is, catches half the particles 10 microns or larger.

The upshot is oil is really dirty at 10k miles, and this - up to today's oil tech and additives, WILL start to slowly stain and build sludge.

Based on nearly 20 years of following everything about BMWs E46 M3 engine, the S54, I've seen these with cams exposed countless times, as they require valve adjustment and ....had other vavle train issues. Engines with 5000 mile oil changes look nearly as new, only slight golden tinge, no buildup, regardless of miles. One documented at 150k miles! by 7500 mile repeated changes, there is some darker staining and maybe very slight buildup in corners, so golden brown/brown stains. We didn't have many with single owner or perfect maint history, so maybe only a handful of these pics, but you get the idea. This S54 engine is a highly stressed engine, one of the highest piston surface speeds in any production car.
So while not a Porsche GT engine, it's a reasonable comparison, also having > 100 hp/liter.
For those that followed the on board indicator and didn't drive the snot out of them (which would affect the on board oil change to happen sooner), the oil changes often weren't indicated until 10,000 miles or more. These, and many engines with little maint history, have easily visible build up of sludge. Not horrible, but clearly headed the wrong direction.
So most of us on that now lost forum (M3forum.net) we therefore recommended 5k mile oil change intervals.
I have no knowledge or history on Macans/bore scoring.

theiceman

sorry just catching up to this .
Abe is absolutely correct, issue is the Audi variant 4cyl 2.0T E888 motor. longitudinal motor with low tension rings . the transverse motors actually used different rings and dont seem to be much of an issue..

IXLR8

One of the mechanical engineers at work who ran his own shake and bake department bought a new BMW E46 in 2001. He changed his oil every 20,000+ kilometers and had his oil tested in our lubricants lab. It was still good. The BMW dealer used Castrol. The car had over 250,000 kms on it, being conservative because I can say with certainty if it was over 300,000 kms.

996TS

T2 changes his oil every 3-5k and has 650,000 miles on his 996tt (albeit that is an excellent engine). I would love that result and am doing the same.

My gf's GLK 350 sees 90% downtown driving (short, stop and go trips are "severe" engine wear, similar to racing or sand/dust locations). 5k km for that car.

I installed a Stahlbus oil drain valve (https://www.stahlbus-us.com/stahlbus...acing-cap.html) on both these cars.

An oil-only change is < 15 minutes with zero mess. I then change the filter every-other oil change. Cheap insurance and both cars run smoother on fresh oil.

IXLR8

I've seen these before, but something sticking out 22 mm straight down on an already low car instead of the 4 mm stock plug that sits in a well does not provide confidence.

996TS

Depends on the car, the drain plug on the GLK is horizontal and behind an underbody tray (case plug on the 996tt is horizontal as well).

I installed it on the oil reservoir which still has clearance below to the sway bar/frame and other components, no additional risk