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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 12:32 PM
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What a great day yesterday was for a last blast on some back roads before hibernation.





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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 02:46 PM
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Nice looking cover - but 14 day weather forecast looks pretty stellar. That being said I'm scheduled for the end of next weekend but might push that out if the weather holds out and work schedule permits.
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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 02:56 PM
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I am holding out for a while; all cars were serviced this week and the 911s will be put to bed at the end of the month...sad days.



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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 04:30 PM
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The only thing I am thinking all winter is when is spring gonna get here. It's along 6 months.... Why do I live here again?
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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 05:41 PM
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The only thing I am thinking all winter is when is spring gonna get here. It's along 6 months.... Why do I live here again?
if one lived in so cal, you could buy, say, a 993 and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver
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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 06:28 PM
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if one lived in so cal, you could buy, say, a 993 and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver
Yea man. That sounds like Porsche heaven. Lol.
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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 07:00 PM
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Took the Fiat out for a backroad spin today, will keep it and the 993 on the road for a few more weeks - weather looks very acceptable.

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Old Oct 30, 2022 | 10:08 PM
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hoping to get my '2 OUT after building the engine and trans all year (part shortages SUCK)...gotta get at least get a few tanks of fuel through before the cold stuff falls..figure a few weeks
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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 06:57 AM
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Originally Posted by reacp911
if one lived in so cal, you could buy, say, a 993 and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver
If one lived in Canada, you could buy, say, a C4(S) or Turbo with AWD and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver.



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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 08:41 AM
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If one lived in Canada, you could buy, say, a C4(S) or Turbo with AWD and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver.
Likely depends on how long you will live.

In our house, we tend to keep cars for a long time, and I do all the work on them after the warranty goes out. My wife's '05 impreza (traded in 2020) and my '04 volvo still look(ed) like new on the outside, but underneath, things are (were) not so rosy. Stuff underneath - brakes, suspension, exhaust, tubing still rust a lot, not like the old days, but still a lot. The impreza had a brake line go that would have required me to strip the interior to replace. Last week I spent a few days replacing a power steering tube on the volvo that required me to remove the motor mounts, part of the exhaust and drop the subframe. Every tube on that car shows substantial rust.

I bought my 2022 boxster on the basis that it was going to replace my volvo as my daily driver. Didn't drive it last winter. Don't plan to this winter either.

The question is, how long would the boxster remain maintainable as a daily driver. My experience with the car so far indicates that it is a very fragile vehicle, at least cosmetically.

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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 09:50 AM
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Very valid points and I do take extra care in the winter. I rinse off the salt every single time I drive it right before parking in the garage. Wash it once a week also as road debris is also a big culprit in rust formation. Can’t speak for the boxter but I trust mine to tough it out. I also do most of the work and apply the “ounce of prevention” approach to make sure it doesn’t get to a fragile state.
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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 10:07 AM
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Originally Posted by Coussa
Very valid points and I do take extra care in the winter. I rinse off the salt every single time I drive it right before parking in the garage. Wash it once a week also as road debris is also a big culprit in rust formation. Can’t speak for the boxter but I trust mine to tough it out. I also do most of the work and apply the “ounce of prevention” approach to make sure it doesn’t get to a fragile state.
In the old days, I used to get a yearly oil spray underneath. All of the splash shields and removable fender liners make this less effective today, and create hard to clean salt traps. I suspect the porsche dealer would go nuts if I showed up there with an oil sprayed car.

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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted by reacp911
Likely depends on how long you will live.

In our house, we tend to keep cars for a long time, and I do all the work on them after the warranty goes out. My wife's '05 impreza (traded in 2020) and my '04 volvo still look(ed) like new on the outside, but underneath, things are (were) not so rosy. Stuff underneath - brakes, suspension, exhaust, tubing still rust a lot, not like the old days, but still a lot. The impreza had a brake line go that would have required me to strip the interior to replace. Last week I spent a few days replacing a power steering tube on the volvo that required me to remove the motor mounts, part of the exhaust and drop the subframe. Every tube on that car shows substantial rust.

I bought my 2022 boxster on the basis that it was going to replace my volvo as my daily driver. Didn't drive it last winter. Don't plan to this winter either.

The question is, how long would the boxster remain maintainable as a daily driver. My experience with the car so far indicates that it is a very fragile vehicle, at least cosmetically.
I don’t want to turn this thread into a Hello Winter thread but yours is an interesting question. Having run 911s for the last 8 winters my experience is that the rubber suspension components wear much faster. I have not noticed any chassis corrosion when I swap tires in the fall or spring. With a clear bra the paint remains pristine. I do think that if you run them in the winter you need to shorten up the oil change intervals a lot. Like change it in December and then again in April regardless of distance driven.
A Boxter will have less traction than a C4 by design, but neither will be any use in more than 4” of new snow.
For what the it is worth I love driving my Turbo all winter. It takes the winter blues away whenever I fire it up.

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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 10:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Anakin Skywalker
I don’t want to turn this thread into a Hello Winter thread but yours is an interesting question. Having run 911s for the last 8 winters my experience is that the rubber suspension components wear much faster. I have not noticed any chassis corrosion when I swap tires in the fall or spring. With a clear bra the paint remains pristine. I do think that if you run them in the winter you need to shorten up the oil change intervals a lot. Like change it in December and then again in April regardless of distance driven.
A Boxter will have less traction than a C4 by design, but neither will be any use in more than 4” of new snow.
For what the it is worth I love driving my Turbo all winter. It takes the winter blues away whenever I fire it up.
This ^^^^^
I change my oil in November and May for peace of mind. I obviously won't take it out if there's excessive snow but up here they clear it up quite fast.
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Old Oct 31, 2022 | 10:50 AM
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Originally Posted by reacp911
if one lived in so cal, you could buy, say, a 993 and use it for the rest of your life as a year round daily driver
Anywhere else in the world, buy a C4 or C4s and use it as a year-round DD.
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