Notices

Hagerty Going Public

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 12-03-2021, 05:39 PM
  #1  
ronnie993tt
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
ronnie993tt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
Posts: 4,713
Received 274 Likes on 183 Posts
Thumbs down Hagerty Going Public

Hagerty has gone public joining the NYSE. Doubt if this will bode well for policy holders. All of those new shareholders will want to make a nice return and I'm thinking the main way to do it will be through rate increases.
Old 12-03-2021, 06:23 PM
  #2  
Adamant1971
Rennlist Member
 
Adamant1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,469
Received 1,076 Likes on 508 Posts
Default

They are already jacking the rates. I just canceled my policy due to a severe increase.
Old 12-03-2021, 06:46 PM
  #3  
moab
Rennlist Member
 
moab's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: TO
Posts: 2,038
Received 651 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

You guys realize that prices go up. Not down. Welcome to life.
Old 12-03-2021, 08:30 PM
  #4  
SToronto
Rennlist Member
 
SToronto's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 6,681
Received 1,141 Likes on 748 Posts
Default

Lists on Monday...maybe I should buy some! Shareholder discount?
Old 12-03-2021, 11:18 PM
  #5  
Adamant1971
Rennlist Member
 
Adamant1971's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 6,469
Received 1,076 Likes on 508 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by moab
You guys realize that prices go up. Not down. Welcome to life.
So a 23% increase in one year should just be chalked up to life? Whatever.

I moved to vintage and I am now paying less than I was even before Hagerty increased my premium. But hey if you want to bend over and take it in the **** go for it.
The following users liked this post:
DFI (12-07-2021)
Old 12-04-2021, 08:47 AM
  #6  
moab
Rennlist Member
 
moab's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2012
Location: TO
Posts: 2,038
Received 651 Likes on 319 Posts
Default

Well house prices in toronto went up the same percentage in 2021. That’s life.
Old 12-04-2021, 11:08 AM
  #7  
ronnie993tt
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
ronnie993tt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
Posts: 4,713
Received 274 Likes on 183 Posts
Default

I'm referring to the inevitable premium increases to reward all the new public investors which will be on top of any usual increases, high as they may be.
Old 12-04-2021, 07:29 PM
  #8  
928gt
Burning Brakes
 
928gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 887
Received 228 Likes on 147 Posts
Default

Hagerty is a broker. The risk underwriter is Elite Insurance, which is a subsidiary of Aviva.

When insurance companies have to pay out more settlements than usual (because of fires and floods in BC for example), they need to raise the rates or their profits margins shrink - and we all know they can't possibly have smaller profit margins.

+1 for Vintage. Am literally in the process of switching myself as my 928 insurance is up for renewal in January. The annual cost with Vintage is about 60% of what it would be with Hagerty, with the car insured for a $10K higher value than it was with Hagerty (with OPCF 19A endorsement of course). Thank you @Adamant1971!
The following users liked this post:
ggrace (12-04-2021)
Old 12-06-2021, 11:32 AM
  #9  
fenixv8
Racer
 
fenixv8's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2013
Location: Toronto, Ontario
Posts: 363
Received 18 Likes on 12 Posts
Default

https://vintageautoinsurance.ca/

is this the one?
Old 12-06-2021, 12:16 PM
  #10  
928gt
Burning Brakes
 
928gt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Toronto, ON, Canada
Posts: 887
Received 228 Likes on 147 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by fenixv8
Yes, that is the company.
Old 12-06-2021, 01:01 PM
  #11  
bmichael
Rennlist Member
 
bmichael's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: Toronto On, Canada
Posts: 235
Likes: 0
Received 5 Likes on 4 Posts
Default

About four years ago Vintage would not insure the 964 because I drive it to the cottage occasionally where I don't have at garage. Go figure.
Old 12-06-2021, 01:41 PM
  #12  
ronnie993tt
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
ronnie993tt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
Posts: 4,713
Received 274 Likes on 183 Posts
Default

I checked out Vintage several years ago and if I recall they have a low, high value limit which eliminated my 993tt. There was also a deductible issue which I don't recall and they require an appraisal. Hagerty is agreed value which makes it cheaper to increase your coverage in this fast rising market. I'll check again prior to my next renewal in case anything has changed.

Last edited by ronnie993tt; 12-06-2021 at 01:44 PM.
Old 12-06-2021, 02:13 PM
  #13  
theiceman
Team Owner
 
theiceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 26,980
Received 1,115 Likes on 797 Posts
Default

i wouldn't let the " going public " scare me, they still need to be competitive to survive, and going public does not mean they will increase rates because of it.

i will do my due diligence as i always do and balance cost with coverage and convenience, this is a none issue for me.

Last edited by theiceman; 12-07-2021 at 10:30 AM.
Old 12-07-2021, 06:15 PM
  #14  
ronnie993tt
Race Car
Thread Starter
 
ronnie993tt's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2009
Location: Toronto & Mont Tremblant
Posts: 4,713
Received 274 Likes on 183 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by theiceman
i wouldn't let the " going public " scare me, they still need to be competitive to survive, and going public does not mean they will increase rates because of it.i will do my due diligence as i always do and balance cost with coverage and convenience, this is a none issue for me.
I'm not sure the market is that competitive for high value vehicles Clive but all we can do is as you suggest - shop.
Old 12-10-2021, 12:12 PM
  #15  
theiceman
Team Owner
 
theiceman's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2005
Location: Cambridge Ontario Canada
Posts: 26,980
Received 1,115 Likes on 797 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by ronnie993tt
I'm not sure the market is that competitive for high value vehicles Clive but all we can do is as you suggest - shop.
did you got to Vintage too Ronnie ?


Quick Reply: Hagerty Going Public



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 03:24 PM.