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Old 09-29-2020, 11:06 AM
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Default Porsche-engined plane for less than a C4S?

But is it faster?

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Old 09-29-2020, 11:24 AM
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You think a regular aircooled is expensive to rebuild, try this one.
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Originally Posted by 911 Rod
You think a regular aircooled is expensive to rebuild, try this one.
If it floats, flies or fu@&$....rent it!
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Originally Posted by LastMezger
If it floats, flies or fu@&$....rent it!
wow loooool! thats amazing ahaha, Wise Words Sir!
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Originally Posted by LastMezger
But is it faster?
No. Sadly, it's slower. I have a lot of time in Mooneys and people were excited when this came out. First new piston aircraft engine in years. 217 hp with a high rev-ing six cylinder in the M20L vs 200 hp in the four cylinder, Lycoming-powered, M20J. The Porsche PFM 3200 engine also had a "sophisticated" engine management system vs magnetos and manual mixture controls in the 50's era Lycoming.

Alas, aerodynamics. It had a larger cross section with all the accessories and reduction gearing. It was also heavier. They only sold 41 Mooneys and only 80 engines total. Paying more money for going slower and carrying less payload was a hard sell. Even with the bad-assed Porsche decal on the cowl and custom leather interior with Porsche emblems on every surface. They stopped production in '91. Porsche kept supporting it until 2007 when they surrendered their type certificate. Owners may continue to operate but Porsche will no longer provide spare parts so buyer beware. It might be a lawn ornament parked next to your Porsche tractor.

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Old 09-29-2020, 12:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hula
No. Sadly, it's slower. I have a lot of time in Mooneys and people were excited when this came out. First new piston aircraft engine in years. 217 hp with a high rev-ing six cylinder in the M20L vs 200 hp in the four cylinder, Lycoming-powered, M20J. The Porsche PFM 3200 engine also had a "sophisticated" engine management system vs magnetos and manual mixture controls in the 50's era Lycoming.

Alas, aerodynamics. It had a larger cross section with all the accessories and reduction gearing. It was also heavier. They only sold 41 Mooneys and only 80 engines total. Paying more money for going slower and carrying less payload was a hard sell. Even with the bad-assed Porsche decal on the cowl and custom leather interior with Porsche emblems on every surface. They stopped production in '91. Porsche kept supporting it until 2007 when they surrendered their type certificate. Owners may continue to operate but Porsche will no longer provide spare parts so buyer beware. It might be a lawn ornament parked next to your Porsche tractor.
Thanks...great info!
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Originally Posted by LastMezger
If it floats, flies or fu@&$....rent it!

love that quote..

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Old 09-29-2020, 07:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Hula
No. Sadly, it's slower. I have a lot of time in Mooneys and people were excited when this came out. First new piston aircraft engine in years. 217 hp with a high rev-ing six cylinder in the M20L vs 200 hp in the four cylinder, Lycoming-powered, M20J. The Porsche PFM 3200 engine also had a "sophisticated" engine management system vs magnetos and manual mixture controls in the 50's era Lycoming.

Alas, aerodynamics. It had a larger cross section with all the accessories and reduction gearing. It was also heavier. They only sold 41 Mooneys and only 80 engines total. Paying more money for going slower and carrying less payload was a hard sell. Even with the bad-assed Porsche decal on the cowl and custom leather interior with Porsche emblems on every surface. They stopped production in '91. Porsche kept supporting it until 2007 when they surrendered their type certificate. Owners may continue to operate but Porsche will no longer provide spare parts so buyer beware. It might be a lawn ornament parked next to your Porsche tractor.
Great post!
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Originally Posted by theiceman
Little known fact Dwayne got that from me. True story ;-)
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Originally Posted by Gregster
Great post!
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Old 10-08-2020, 05:23 PM
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Between this aircraft engine program and the 959 losses - it cost the job of the CEO (Peter Schutz) as well as Helmuth Bott a few months later. Ferry fell under the influence of Wendelin Wiedeking (aka ****** Boi - my name for him) and severe cost cutting became the name of the game as well as cheapening up the product lines.
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Porsche has been in aviation a long time.
https://newsroom.porsche.com/en/hist...uds-12014.html




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