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Old 09-10-2020, 08:17 AM
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Originally Posted by theiceman
I guess he thinks people buy C4s just for the snow ?
It's for 4 wheel drift all the cool kids are doing these days.

Old 09-10-2020, 08:58 AM
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Originally Posted by michaelo
I had a C4 and it didn't do anything special on daily street driving different from my C2.
lol

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Old 09-10-2020, 09:32 AM
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The season is almost over anyway .... They can fail without warning although rare .... Take your time source one out thru the winter or rebuild it if possible .... They do come up and are out there for a lot less than 10k and then have it replaced thru the winter ...Even if you have to ship the diff elsewhere still a lot cheaper.

https://californiamotorsports.net/pr...t-diff-service

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Old 09-10-2020, 10:07 PM
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Wow...sorry to hear about your situation. I have a 997.1 C4s, and removed the entire front diff to convert to RWD. On the 997.2, unfortunately, that is not possible.

I had my old front diff up for sale for a year for a few hundred bucks....and not a single person was interested. It just blows my mind to think that the 997.2 front diff is a $10k part.
Old 09-10-2020, 10:45 PM
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Used ones are <$1000 and its not much labour to replace..
https://www.ebay.com/itm/2008-2012-9...S/323909925371
Old 09-10-2020, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by rileyracing1
The season is almost over anyway .... They can fail without warning although rare .... Take your time source one out thru the winter or rebuild it if possible .... They do come up and are out there for a lot less than 10k and then have it replaced thru the winter ...Even if you have to ship the diff elsewhere still a lot cheaper.

https://californiamotorsports.net/pr...t-diff-service
Season? To what season are you referring? 911s - especially AWD versions - are year-round cars lol. I know, I know, some people prefer not to subject their cars to the real and perceived ravages of winter, but they really are brilliant winter vehicles with good snow tires.
Old 09-10-2020, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by gcurnew
Season? To what season are you referring? 911s - especially AWD versions - are year-round cars lol. I know, I know, some people prefer not to subject their cars to the real and perceived ravages of winter, but they really are brilliant winter vehicles with good snow tires.
Just need to keep an eye on the corrosion of lines etc under the belly pans. Believe or not I've changed brake lines on 96/97s..
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Old 09-11-2020, 08:53 AM
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Seen it on few cars already...this includes some 997.2 !

Originally Posted by Gregster
Just need to keep an eye on the corrosion of lines etc under the belly pans. Believe or not I've changed brake lines on 96/97s..
Old 09-11-2020, 11:33 AM
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Originally Posted by Gregster
Just need to keep an eye on the corrosion of lines etc under the belly pans. Believe or not I've changed brake lines on 96/97s..
One on my springs rust out on my 2002 C4S and on my 2001 Turbo the pss9 coil overs rusted out one tie rod mount. On my 2005 Cayenne Turbo it has rust every where underneath, primary and secondary engine fans, windshield wiper motor ruined, door locks and power window lines rusted out. Even the aluminum wheel have corroded so bad they leak slowly in cold weather. Winter does damage though I expect these people just are short term owners and will never see the effects.

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Old 09-11-2020, 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by jumper5836
One on my springs rust out on my 2002 C4S and on my 2001 Turbo the pss9 coil overs rusted out one tie rod mount. On my 2005 Cayenne Turbo it has rust every where underneath, primary and secondary engine fans, windshield wiper motor ruined, door locks and power window lines rusted out. Even the aluminum wheel have corroded so bad they leak slowly in cold weather. Winter does damage though I expect these people just are short term owners and will never see the effects.
Everyone is a short term owner. Are you saving the cars for your kids?
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Originally Posted by Gregster
Just need to keep an eye on the corrosion of lines etc under the belly pans. Believe or not I've changed brake lines on 96/97s..
Yep...but no different than any other car. I had front outboard anti-vibration dampers so rusted in the bores of a 997.2 that I needed to replace a caliper, but no other significant underbody issues after 4 years of winter driving. How hard winter is on a car is dependent on what mix of salt/brine/sand your municipality uses, and how fastidious one is about keeping the body and undercarriage as clean as is reasonably possible. Always makes me wonder why folks are anxious about driving a 911 in Winter but see no problem using a Macan, Cayenne or Panny - some costing more than an average non-GT 911 - year round.

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Old 09-11-2020, 03:59 PM
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all cars are going to corode . Porsches are not Magic. I f you want it to last you look after it , just like anything else.. The degree of how much you look after it is very personal and should not be judged

The comment everyone is a short term owner is inflammatory and just BS.

I have had my SC for over 15 years, and although it is fully galvanized i store it winters...
I think it looks pretty good for 42 years old and i think if i had driven it every winter it might not look so good...
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Originally Posted by theiceman
all cars are going to corode . Porsches are not Magic. I f you want it to last you look after it , just like anything else.. The degree of how much you look after it is very personal and should not be judged

The comment everyone is a short term owner is inflammatory and just BS.

I have had my SC for over 15 years, and although it is fully galvanized i store it winters...
I think it looks pretty good for 42 years old and i think if i had driven it every winter it might not look so good...
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Originally Posted by theiceman
all cars are going to corode . Porsches are not Magic. I f you want it to last you look after it , just like anything else.. The degree of how much you look after it is very personal and should not be judged

The comment everyone is a short term owner is inflammatory and just BS.

I have had my SC for over 15 years, and although it is fully galvanized i store it winters...
I think it looks pretty good for 42 years old and i think if i had driven it every winter it might not look so good...
Exactly, I am 17 years with my 2002 and 149k km. I did 5 years of GTA winters and kept very good care of it but you can't stop rust when your subjecting it to salt/brine every year. Now it is stored for winters just as my (new to me) 2014 Cayenne Diesel will be. If you want it to last take care of it. I aint saving it for my kids I am saving it so I have a nice ride for the rest of my life.
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Originally Posted by gcurnew
Yep...but no different than any other car. I had front outboard anti-vibration dampers so rusted in the bores of a 997.2 that I needed to replace a caliper, but no other significant underbody issues after 4 years of winter driving. How hard winter is on a car is dependent on what mix of salt/brine/sand your municipality uses, and how fastidious one is about keeping the body and undercarriage as clean as is reasonably possible. Always makes me wonder why folks are anxious about driving a 911 in Winter but see no problem using a Macan, Cayenne or Panny - some costing more than an average non-GT 911 - year round.
A good friend owns a Porsche repair business in the UK. The amount of corrosion there as well is astonishingly bad. Damp+ Wet+ Belly pans= corrosion central. Not many places around here remove all the pans on PPIs as well....


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