Security cameras for garage
#1
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Security cameras for garage
I have two cars in a detached garage. I’d like to mount a few security cameras both inside and outside.
Arlo has been suggested to me. Any other ideas? I will want them hard wired so I don’t have to worry about batteries.
Arlo has been suggested to me. Any other ideas? I will want them hard wired so I don’t have to worry about batteries.
Last edited by ggrace; 04-15-2018 at 03:10 PM.
#2
Three Wheelin'
You might want to look at Nest... they're pricy but very nice. Not affiliated... my brother in law uses these around his house.
Indoor:
https://nest.com/ca/cameras/nest-cam-indoor/overview/
Outdoor:
https://nest.com/ca/cameras/nest-cam-outdoor/overview/
Indoor:
https://nest.com/ca/cameras/nest-cam-indoor/overview/
Outdoor:
https://nest.com/ca/cameras/nest-cam-outdoor/overview/
#3
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The choices are almost endless. Start with what do you want to do with the images? If the answer to that is identification of a person or read a license plate then you'll want pixel density. Consider that Hi Def is 1080P so you'll want at least that, but considering that commercial grade go up to 36 Meg the choices are considerable. Why is pixel density important? It allows a small area of the screen to be magnified to a large size while retaining definition, otherwise with low pixel density a persons face on magnification might consist of a dozen pixels and all you'd know is its a face. If you have several cameras covering an area then you can get away with lower density as the magnification wouldn't be as extreme. Distance from the camera to an object is also very important and the wider the lens the further away the image will appear. 16 mm is closest to human depth perception but the image will be narrow, much like looking down a tube. An 8 mm lens will provide almost 180 degrees but the depth will be 1/2 of the 16 mm so everything will appear twice as far away. Most over the counter cameras are 8 mm so don't expect to see much detail beyond 30 ft from the camera. Ideally 15ft would be better but accordingly the image will appear twice as far away.
If you want to view the images in the future you can store it on a hard drive, and analogue or digital cameras would be fine. Although you'll be hard pressed to still find analogue cameras. The emerging standard for video is internet protocol (IP) and each camera is given an IP address and the image is carried to a server, either at home, or to a third party or to a cloud based service. Video especially high density uses up a fair bit of data so full time all the time will get expensive real fast. But if you set the refresh rate at 10 frames per second it will appear jerky but uses 1/3 of full time data. It's also a good idea to use cameras that activate upon motion so you don't have to review dead time, though if there's not change in the image then there's no data flow either.
Once you have image capture you decide whats' next and the current methods are email, or text notification upon alarm and logging on to a file server to view the image, either by replay or in real time.
Having said all that, NEST is a really good choice for consumers. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
If you want to view the images in the future you can store it on a hard drive, and analogue or digital cameras would be fine. Although you'll be hard pressed to still find analogue cameras. The emerging standard for video is internet protocol (IP) and each camera is given an IP address and the image is carried to a server, either at home, or to a third party or to a cloud based service. Video especially high density uses up a fair bit of data so full time all the time will get expensive real fast. But if you set the refresh rate at 10 frames per second it will appear jerky but uses 1/3 of full time data. It's also a good idea to use cameras that activate upon motion so you don't have to review dead time, though if there's not change in the image then there's no data flow either.
Once you have image capture you decide whats' next and the current methods are email, or text notification upon alarm and logging on to a file server to view the image, either by replay or in real time.
Having said all that, NEST is a really good choice for consumers. Now back to your regularly scheduled program.
#4
I would go with a wired set up with a DVR hidden away. I have a 10 camera Night Owl system at our office and it works very well and everything is contained locally vs using wifi like the nest cams. Also with a wired cam you can have the DVR on a UPC backup so your cams still work and record during a power outage.
I have a nest cam at home and it's ok, but if you want to able to record and review you need to pay for the service. And the outdoor cam is pretty useless for security since all a thief has to do is unplug it.
One outdoor nest cam will run you $250
A lorex 4 cam system from Costco is $350
Allot more work to install but well worth it if you want serious security.
I have a nest cam at home and it's ok, but if you want to able to record and review you need to pay for the service. And the outdoor cam is pretty useless for security since all a thief has to do is unplug it.
One outdoor nest cam will run you $250
A lorex 4 cam system from Costco is $350
Allot more work to install but well worth it if you want serious security.
#5
Race Car
For outside lights, have a look at KUNA.
Not just a hard wired motion activated wi-fi light & camera, but also audio & video recording and intercom.
https://getkuna.com/
Not just a hard wired motion activated wi-fi light & camera, but also audio & video recording and intercom.
https://getkuna.com/
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#8
Drifting
Here are your questions.
Wired, or unwired?
Battery or powered.
WiFi?
And what are you going to do with this information? Are you going to go Porschilanty on them?
Wife wants cameras at the house?
Doors busted in, perp is laying on the floor, after tripping and hurting himself of piles of discarded LEGO.
See, I have my own system.
Wired, or unwired?
Battery or powered.
WiFi?
And what are you going to do with this information? Are you going to go Porschilanty on them?
Wife wants cameras at the house?
Doors busted in, perp is laying on the floor, after tripping and hurting himself of piles of discarded LEGO.
See, I have my own system.
#9
Good info here.
For industrial building we have UTC IP Network cameras throughout on battery backup w/remote and mobile access.
Arlo and Nest are both decent consumer grade units. One thing to watch for their outdoor models is the operating temps, usually not suited to our cold winters. Also relies on your wifi and internet connection being available.
For industrial building we have UTC IP Network cameras throughout on battery backup w/remote and mobile access.
Arlo and Nest are both decent consumer grade units. One thing to watch for their outdoor models is the operating temps, usually not suited to our cold winters. Also relies on your wifi and internet connection being available.
#10
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Thread Starter
I’d like an indoor cam that notifies me of motion because if I have motion inside, I have a problem.
For the exterior, I’d like to see if people are fiddling with the garage keypad or graffitiing. I imagine the ability to speak to people on the outside, to warm them the cops have been called, would help.
I want images ages to be good enough that the footage would be useful to police.
For the exterior, I’d like to see if people are fiddling with the garage keypad or graffitiing. I imagine the ability to speak to people on the outside, to warm them the cops have been called, would help.
I want images ages to be good enough that the footage would be useful to police.
#11
Originally Posted by ggrace
I’d like an indoor cam that notifies me of motion because if I have motion inside, I have a problem.
For the exterior, I’d like to see if people are fiddling with the garage keypad or graffitiing. I imagine the ability to speak to people on the outside, to warm them the cops have been called, would help.
I want images ages to be good enough that the footage would be useful to police.
For the exterior, I’d like to see if people are fiddling with the garage keypad or graffitiing. I imagine the ability to speak to people on the outside, to warm them the cops have been called, would help.
I want images ages to be good enough that the footage would be useful to police.
Lighting, doors, locks, alarm, camera, glass security film, signage, vegetation, visibility to others. Consider all those aspects from the exterior.
#12
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Spend more time and budget hardening your garage on the exterior. If you can deter, delay and prevent them from entering then you're doing well. You have a problem if they can get in, not once they are in.
Lighting, doors, locks, alarm, camera, glass security film, signage, vegetation, visibility to others. Consider all those aspects from the exterior.
Lighting, doors, locks, alarm, camera, glass security film, signage, vegetation, visibility to others. Consider all those aspects from the exterior.
Video is good for verification of an alarm and if you personally verify and call 911 to report an intrusion you will get a better response from authorities than if the call comes from a monitoring station. Other than that remember the best defence to a video system is a ski mask.
#13
For sure, my conclusion too. After some 20 years in the electronic side of the security business I realized that hardening was the most important and started a business doing just that. Most of my work was referrals from Alarm people, whose customers were mad because the only thing those alarms did was tell them they were robbed/burgled.
Video is good for verification of an alarm and if you personally verify and call 911 to report an intrusion you will get a better response from authorities than if the call comes from a monitoring station. Other than that remember the best defence to a video system is a ski mask.
Video is good for verification of an alarm and if you personally verify and call 911 to report an intrusion you will get a better response from authorities than if the call comes from a monitoring station. Other than that remember the best defence to a video system is a ski mask.
#14
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CPTED is the approach I'm speaking about. Video would also be good for catching vehicle plates, descriptions, number of people, tools used etc. Response rates will vary based on availability and whether a person is under threat, so ultimately hardening is the best route to prevent property from being compromised.
For everybody else, CPTED simply means security through environmental designs.