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Old 05-29-2017, 09:05 PM
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Default Mosport track walk notes

Off to Mosport for my annual pilgrimage in a couple of weeks and would love some track notes (especially with visuals).
Unfortunately Ross and Peter haven't done Mosport yet.
Any suggestions for sources would be great. I've been there more than a few times but would like to be better prepared.
Thanks
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Ping matt distefano or francois faust, its their home track. Im sure they will give you notes.

I have this video if that can help you

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Nicely done! I was pretty pleased with a 1:36 last year. And you were at 1:28?!
Thanks for suggesting FF. Great guy and helpful to me before.
Hoping for good tips both for me and to help me be a better instructor (helping BMW Trillium region 6/9-11). Would love to have the level of knowledge I have about Tremblant and WGI.
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Originally Posted by RickBetterley
Nicely done! I was pretty pleased with a 1:36 last year. And you were at 1:28?!
Thanks for suggesting FF. Great guy and helpful to me before.
Hoping for good tips both for me and to help me be a better instructor (helping BMW Trillium region 6/9-11). Would love to have the level of knowledge I have about Tremblant and WGI.
I found tremblant more technical than mosport.

1:27:8 on old tires but there is easily 1-1.5 sec that l can shave off and i know where i leave room.

Great that u help bmw guys too!

Enjoy your time there rick

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Originally Posted by 987part
I found tremblant more technical than mosport.

1:27:8 on old tires but there is easily 1-1.5 sec that l can shave off and i know where i leave room.

Great that u help bmw guys too!

Enjoy your time there rick

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Man, you're killing me Seb! Old tires no less
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7 HC pirelli dh tires, which is hockey pucks for some hehe

Do you have onboard video? I will look at it

Dont ask me to look at your data, i dont know how to
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Originally Posted by 987part
7 HC pirelli dh tires, which is hockey pucks for some hehe

Do you have onboard video? I will look at it

Dont ask me to look at your data, i dont know how to
That would be great - I should have video from last July.
I am hopeless in 5. I practically come to a dead stop.
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Originally Posted by 987part
Rick
I have this video if that can help you
Just curious, is your "second apex/exit" in turn 2 always on purpose? It seems like it...

The reason why I ask is that you are placing the car a few feet wider at the second apex compared to what I am comfortable with. True, that with a wider arc, you can carry more speed, but driving over the turtles on the exit, and trying to get the car back over for three seems very risky. Is it worth the extra tenths to do so? am I missing something?
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U shouldnt go over the turtle like i do

I need to make adjustments on the car/suspension

Hehe
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Originally Posted by RickBetterley
Nicely done! I was pretty pleased with a 1:36 last year. And you were at 1:28?!
Thanks for suggesting FF. Great guy and helpful to me before.
Hoping for good tips both for me and to help me be a better instructor (helping BMW Trillium region 6/9-11). Would love to have the level of knowledge I have about Tremblant and WGI.
I am happy to help you with notes but keep in mind that Mosport doesn't have a lot of useful external cues that can be captured on paper. Much better to go right seat and use video.

Also very important to do a track walk, particularly to appreciate elevation changes. That will help you with less brake in 5a
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Hey Rick,

You need to take me out for a few laps. I've lined up a ride with Sergio, as well. It's going to be a Cayman weekend for me
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Hey Rick,

You need to take me out for a few laps. I've lined up a ride with Sergio, as well. It's going to be a Cayman weekend for me
You ride with Sergio then with me and tell me all of his secrets!
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Originally Posted by jdistefa
I am happy to help you with notes but keep in mind that Mosport doesn't have a lot of useful external cues that can be captured on paper. Much better to go right seat and use video.

Also very important to do a track walk, particularly to appreciate elevation changes. That will help you with less brake in 5a
Matt anything you can contribute to getting me up to speed would be great.
I don't give gravity enough credit (I.e., Watkins Glen Toe, Mosport 5a), etc.
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Originally Posted by RickBetterley
Nicely done! I was pretty pleased with a 1:36 last year.
Rick, one thing I can share is that T8 (my all-time fave turn ) is slightly uphill and quite a bit faster than you think......on a good day I'm taking it with just a bit of a lift before entry. Of course I'm prolly still going in at half the pace as you

With a PB of 1:46.47 I still have work to do to get close to you

Be there on the 6th--can't wait!

Gary
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