Stock Brake life
#1
Stock Brake life
I'm finding that I can only get 7-8 20 minute sessions in DE before my front pads are nearly gone. Running a Cayman GTS and the tracks I run aren't particularly hard on the brakes. Girodisks and Pagids are coming up, but does this level of longevity make sense to everyone? I get about 16-20 sessions on the rears, btw. I had to sideline myself for day 2 this weekend because the fronts are toast.
#3
Is this is on stock pads and rotors? If so, i don't find it terribly surprising. Girodiscs are optional. A race quality pad is where you will get all of your gains from.
How much DE experience do you have? Driving style could also play a role.
How much DE experience do you have? Driving style could also play a role.
#4
2:1 wear rear vs front is pretty typical. 1 day on a set of pads means 1 of 2 things, wrong pads, or you're using them too much But more seriously, try different pads, and bring a spare set, they're not that hard to change by yourself.
#5
I'm finding that I can only get 7-8 20 minute sessions in DE before my front pads are nearly gone. Running a Cayman GTS and the tracks I run aren't particularly hard on the brakes. Girodisks and Pagids are coming up, but does this level of longevity make sense to everyone? I get about 16-20 sessions on the rears, btw. I had to sideline myself for day 2 this weekend because the fronts are toast.
Last edited by Frank 993 C4S; 02-19-2017 at 10:36 AM.
#6
IIRC the front calipers on his car have the closed bridge and require removal of the caliper to change pads which may or may not necessitate the removal of the bracket that holds the hard line in place. So it no longer is the easy method that you are referring to.
#7
I find it a bit surprising - I get 7-8 DAYS out of my front pads, and my tears lasted 16 days before hitting 50%. I typically run 3-4 20 min sessions/day.
Your tire choice could be a factor - I would imagine that r-comp tires would generate more force on the brakes and burn through more material at threshold braking. I run street tires (Pirelli p-0)
Your tire choice could be a factor - I would imagine that r-comp tires would generate more force on the brakes and burn through more material at threshold braking. I run street tires (Pirelli p-0)
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#9
Yep.
I find it a bit surprising - I get 7-8 DAYS out of my front pads, and my tears lasted 16 days before hitting 50%. I typically run 3-4 20 min sessions/day.
Your tire choice could be a factor - I would imagine that r-comp tires would generate more force on the brakes and burn through more material at threshold braking. I run street tires (Pirelli p-0)
Your tire choice could be a factor - I would imagine that r-comp tires would generate more force on the brakes and burn through more material at threshold braking. I run street tires (Pirelli p-0)
#10
You mean that you started off with new pads and after 8 sessions you wound up with 5mm left? If that is the case you used your brakes more than you thought or you could have a possible stuck piston problem.
Did inside and outside wear the same?
You now see that your original post of 1 day and pads gone is very misleading of what actually happened.
Did inside and outside wear the same?
You now see that your original post of 1 day and pads gone is very misleading of what actually happened.
Last edited by ExMB; 02-19-2017 at 09:07 PM.
#12
The pagid yellows will greatly extend the life of your pads, I get 14+ track days from mine (longer to the rears). Never tracked the OEM pads as I heard they melt quite easily.
I assume you have high temp brake fluid.
Also have GTS Cayman currently with 51 track days on it.
I assume you have high temp brake fluid.
Also have GTS Cayman currently with 51 track days on it.
#13
The pagid yellows will greatly extend the life of your pads, I get 14+ track days from mine (longer to the rears). Never tracked the OEM pads as I heard they melt quite easily.
I assume you have high temp brake fluid.
Also have GTS Cayman currently with 51 track days on it.
I assume you have high temp brake fluid.
Also have GTS Cayman currently with 51 track days on it.
#15
you need to go to a racing pad. You also need an instructor to ride with you to make sure you are not braking too much. At advanced levels, the amount of force and how you apply and release and how long you brake for all determine how much brake you are using. Many drivers realize they don't need to use very much brakes on most tracks. Also how is the brake cooling on your car? any ducts? if not you may want to add some.
At one point I realized I am faster and use less brakes by braking earlier, less force and smoother.
Let us know what you find. btw I like PFC pads. your tires should not be an issue.
At one point I realized I am faster and use less brakes by braking earlier, less force and smoother.
Let us know what you find. btw I like PFC pads. your tires should not be an issue.