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Old 01-24-2017 | 12:39 PM
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Originally Posted by mmuller
To me the answer is simple. Everyone needs to get of the couch and go race so the classes are bigger and split starts are no question.

Simple. Done
Awesome - look forward to seeing you at Sebring!!
Old 01-24-2017 | 07:01 PM
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Seems like the SPB's need to speak up ??
Old 01-24-2017 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by FeuerRacing
Awesome - look forward to seeing you at Sebring!!
Not this year unfortunately.
Old 01-25-2017 | 01:34 PM
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Very good point, did you express it to Henderson?



Originally Posted by Provost Motorsports
So...if there is 17 944's and 30 SPB's we are intermingled? makes no sense ...the SPB car count should be part of the equation .....2 cents
Old 01-25-2017 | 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by Provost Motorsports
So...if there is 17 944's and 30 SPB's we are intermingled? makes no sense ...
No - with 30 SPBs you should get a split start. If you engage with the Lead Steward for a articular race EARLY, this is easily coordinated.

Split starts are great because you avoid similar laptime cars starting next to each other that have completely different sector times. You just end up slowing each other down.

Split starts are a pain when there are problems with the Timing and Scoring System and Time Sheets come out late. It can get real messy on grid, especially when people show up late.....
Old 01-25-2017 | 03:11 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
No - with 30 SPBs you should get a split start. If you engage with the Lead Steward for a articular race EARLY, this is easily coordinated.

Split starts are great because you avoid similar laptime cars starting next to each other that have completely different sector times. You just end up slowing each other down.

Split starts are a pain when there are problems with the Timing and Scoring System and Time Sheets come out late. It can get real messy on grid, especially when people show up late.....
Having raced 944's for years that is incorrect . The rule used to be 15 944's for a split start.... if we had 13 there was no split start.
Old 01-25-2017 | 03:43 PM
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Originally Posted by Provost Motorsports
Having raced 944's for years that is incorrect . The rule used to be 15 944's for a split start.... if we had 13 there was no split start.
Ok - don't talk to the steward then.
Old 01-25-2017 | 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Frank 993 C4S
Ok - don't talk to the steward then.
But 944 cup has an agreement with PCA that they get split starts if they have 15 or more cars. There is no such rule for classes within PCA. The Chief Stewart at a given race may or may not accommodate such a request but there is no rule that guarantees it at the moment.
Old 01-26-2017 | 08:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Provost Motorsports
The rule used to be 15 944's for a split start....
Originally Posted by sbelles
But 944 cup has an agreement with PCA that they get split starts if they have 15 or more cars.
The new rule is now 18 cars.
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Originally Posted by Van
The new rule is now 18 cars.
Correct Van. And this number has evolved over time.

The 944 Cup classes were first added to the PCA club racing program in 2006, at which time the 944 Cup was running primarily with NASA. In 2009, the series began a swing to PCA when the 944 splits starts were introduced with a minimum of 10 cars for sprint races only. That was later bumped up to 15 when the series made a full migration to PCA in 2012. The number went to 18 this year and continues to apply only to sprint races. Splits are not offered for Enduros.

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Old 02-27-2017 | 05:53 PM
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SPB racer. I agree with C4 Pazzo's comments. We'd much rather prefer split starts for the SPB group, and any SP1-3 who want to join us. A few years ago we were able to divide our race pack into three groups: 1)Zoomies, 2)SP911s, and 3)SPB/944 (not many 944s out here). Made for some great starts among like-timed cars. Seems PCA is frowning on this now for all but 944Cup, so we've had to adjust. We always ask the steward first for split starts. If that doesn't work, we work it out amongst ourselves, and our 944 friends, to ensure we have a safe, self-managed split start. Good stuff. ����



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