Sebring DE Lap Times
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Sebring DE Lap Times
Searching around but didn't see anything ...
Just curious what kind of times people are doing on typical DE events ...
Should have asked people in the pits - but forgot ...
I recently did a 2:37 lap in the novice group (traffic) ....
Hoping to improve all around - need more seat time !!
Is there a web site that lists typical times at different skill levels ?
Just curious what kind of times people are doing on typical DE events ...
Should have asked people in the pits - but forgot ...
I recently did a 2:37 lap in the novice group (traffic) ....
Hoping to improve all around - need more seat time !!
Is there a web site that lists typical times at different skill levels ?
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Not generally. Too many different cars/driver experience levels/prep and mod levels...
Best thing to do is to track your own progress. And don't worry too much if you get stuck. Just deconstruct what you're doing and improve the level of fundamental skill executions and you'll break through again.
Best thing to do is to track your own progress. And don't worry too much if you get stuck. Just deconstruct what you're doing and improve the level of fundamental skill executions and you'll break through again.
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Not generally. Too many different cars/driver experience levels/prep and mod levels...
Best thing to do is to track your own progress. And don't worry too much if you get stuck. Just deconstruct what you're doing and improve the level of fundamental skill executions and you'll break through again.
Best thing to do is to track your own progress. And don't worry too much if you get stuck. Just deconstruct what you're doing and improve the level of fundamental skill executions and you'll break through again.
Finally set up my car for track days (seats, roll bar, Hans, etc) and that alone increased my confidence level tremendously ... And reduced my lap times by :15...
Excited for the next track day
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I concur with Pete in fact try to do a couple of events without checking track times just enjoy and learn then check times at next event after not looking for awhile. If you want some idea of Sebring lap times for your model of Porsche go to PCA.COM look up race history results for Sebring there you can get a ball park lap time factor in these are race car lap times but gives you some idea of possibilities.
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for what it's worth I put in a 2:44 in my Golf R at my first ever DE, so you should have no problem being in low 2:30's? (what do I know, I'm a complete novice). I'm headed to Sebring for my second time this weekend and will shoot for 2:39..but I continue remind myself isn't a race or a competition, just a DE.
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Enjoy the experience!
Lap times are a VERY broad brush way to measure your progress. Instead, buy yourself an AIM Solo and set yourself min speed and other goals for particular sections of the track. Lap times will then improve very consistently.
You can check PCA Track Records and their history here:
http://www.rennpoints.com/classrecor...***=&session=7
Lap times are a VERY broad brush way to measure your progress. Instead, buy yourself an AIM Solo and set yourself min speed and other goals for particular sections of the track. Lap times will then improve very consistently.
You can check PCA Track Records and their history here:
http://www.rennpoints.com/classrecor...***=&session=7
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Agreed, Thundermoose!
Developing situational awareness (360 degree awareness, thanks Ron Zitza) and the ability to keep your eyes up and moving should be the priority, then perfecting braking, turning and acceleration, all while maintaining pinpoint accuracy...
Developing situational awareness (360 degree awareness, thanks Ron Zitza) and the ability to keep your eyes up and moving should be the priority, then perfecting braking, turning and acceleration, all while maintaining pinpoint accuracy...
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Focus on skills and the laps times will come.
Repeat after me, HPDE's are not timed events this may buy you some grace with your Insurance carrier... once.
Listen to your instructor, focus on safety & skills, and the laps times will come to you. Traffic congestion / wait for point-bys in Instructed run groups are such an impediment to clean lap times, your focus should be on skills and smoothness. When ready (solo'd a lot) start data collection (AIM Solo, etc.) so you can look at sector/segments to improve your skill. At some point if allowed by the organizer, have a pro lay down a "base" lap in your car to compare your data too. It will be humbling (and nerve racking letting someone else "run" your car on a track). But most of all, have fun! Last I checked, PCNA, Ganassi, & Penske have no driver openings, so it is all about the smiles per mile.
Listen to your instructor, focus on safety & skills, and the laps times will come to you. Traffic congestion / wait for point-bys in Instructed run groups are such an impediment to clean lap times, your focus should be on skills and smoothness. When ready (solo'd a lot) start data collection (AIM Solo, etc.) so you can look at sector/segments to improve your skill. At some point if allowed by the organizer, have a pro lay down a "base" lap in your car to compare your data too. It will be humbling (and nerve racking letting someone else "run" your car on a track). But most of all, have fun! Last I checked, PCNA, Ganassi, & Penske have no driver openings, so it is all about the smiles per mile.
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Once you've been promoted to solo, hire a pro coach like Peter or VRaptor. That will give you the most improvement in lap times. I dropped 15 seconds off my Sebring time the first weekend working with a pro coach. Combo of me being kind of bad to begin with and the coach being very helpful. :-)
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Enjoy the experience!
Lap times are a VERY broad brush way to measure your progress. Instead, buy yourself an AIM Solo and set yourself min speed and other goals for particular sections of the track. Lap times will then improve very consistently.
You can check PCA Track Records and their history here:
http://www.rennpoints.com/classrecor...***=&session=7
Lap times are a VERY broad brush way to measure your progress. Instead, buy yourself an AIM Solo and set yourself min speed and other goals for particular sections of the track. Lap times will then improve very consistently.
You can check PCA Track Records and their history here:
http://www.rennpoints.com/classrecor...***=&session=7
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If I am new to a track I go to Rennpoints to see what the lap record is so I know where I am.
That being said, I also agree with Frank about the pure worth of lap times. The temperature, humidity, track temperate, tire type, tire conditions, set up, traffic, etc., all can vary and affect your time.
Most of my personal best laps occurred when the air was cool (maybe 55 F) and the sun was out heating the track.
But finally, if this is your first year, concentrate on getting smooth and the fast lap times will come to you.
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Thanks for the info guys... I am enjoying the learning process - just figured lower lap times correlates somewhat into improved ability ...
Certainly focused on getting better and more personalized instruction as I progress ...
Its an addicting hobby and Sebring is just such an amazing experience - very cool track
Certainly focused on getting better and more personalized instruction as I progress ...
Its an addicting hobby and Sebring is just such an amazing experience - very cool track
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Will do ... Think the next event is sold out... but I will see u there....
If I don't see u - come stop by .... Just look for the blue 09 with the top down :-)
If I don't see u - come stop by .... Just look for the blue 09 with the top down :-)