schaibaa

Hi Guys,

I have an F150 Super Crew Raptor model and want to upgrade from an open trailex to an enclosed ATC, probably in the 28' variety but maybe 32' depending on a few things.

I'll have a corvette in there (3500lbs) and some other gear, but don't plan to go too crazy. The raptor has a strong motor, decent frame, is much heavier than a standard F150, and has solid brakes. Not to the degree of a 1 ton truck, but definitely capable of pulling and stopping 8000-9000lbs. It falls way short in tongue weight capability, so I'm at a bit of a cross roads.

I'd rather not upgrade to a 3/4 ton or 1 ton truck (but will if it is the only good solution). I'm also looking at a Trailer Toad, which essentially carries that vast majority of the tongue weight from the trailer.

Other F150's with the same drive train are rated to tow 11,300lbs, while my Raptor is only rated to tow 8000 weight distributed. I'll probably come in around 9000lbs fully loaded on the ATC, but negligible tongue weight.

I've found a few posts online about people using a Trailer Toad with an enclosed trailer and a half ton truck and everyone has seemed pleased with the results. I'm wondering if this will let me keep the Raptor and still tow safely.

Less of a money issue, more of I only do this 7-10 times per year, and the 1 ton would be my daily driver, and I would prefer the Raptor.

Thanks!

Frank 993 C4S

I looked into a Trailer Toad a couple of years ago and it was made very clear to me by them that it would allow me to run tongue weights in excess of 1000 LBS, however it would not allow be to exceed the towing capacity of my vehicle. I have a friend towing an open trailer with a Raptor and he always complains about the soft suspension in comparison to his Cayenne. He actually prefers to tow with the Cayenne.

flatsics

http://www.trailertoad.com/

interesting

schaibaa

Yeah the soft springs and 3-zone rear shocks make it a difficult tow. From what I can tell, the only reason the tow rating is lower on the raptor is the spring rates. Same axles and stuff as other higher rates F150s.

linzman

And all the extra weight.

LuigiVampa

This looks like a really interesting idea - but I can't help but think that if this were such a great idea you would see more of them. I've never heard of this before.

How do you back up with this?

It is interesting.

schaibaa

There are back up pins that lock the trailer toad to keep it straight. I have yet to find a bad review but I agree it is not too common. They are a bit spendy if you don't need them but seems like they can help.

ltusler

24', E rated tires truck and trailer, air bags on the truck. Go to truck stop and weigh the total. Don't exceed the ratings on the door jamb. Equalizer hitch. Don't speed.

LuigiVampa

I agree - have not seen a bad review. Interesting.

RickBetterley

Time for me to point out that, with trailers, it's not how much you can pull, it's how much you can stop.
Pretty cool device, though, and I love the name.

schaibaa

I appreciate these types of comments and they pop up in every trailer thread, but the brakes on every F150 SuperCrew are the same regardless of tow rating, and several F150 tow ratings exceed the limits I'm looking for by a decent safety margin.

Frank 993 C4S

The brakes might be the same but are you stopping the same weight? Isn't the Raptor heavier than the other trucks?

RickBetterley

Stopping the rig is about more than brakes. Wheelbase is part of the stability calculation, for example.
Not trying to make your decision more difficult!

stownsen914

Trailer toads are more common amongst the RV crowd for towing due to the longer rear overhangs on RVs and generally weaker rear frame structures that some of them have. Toads are a cool idea, though I wouldn't love the extra overall rig length, and it would make backing up more of a pain.