good hands

My biggest complaint is my fuchin credit cards seem to cut me off at 75.00. At 8 bucks plus a gallon it sometimes takes me 3 transactions to complete a fill up and a few jugs at the self serve places like summit and VIR.

mrbill_fl

you might try looking where the airboats get their gas... most are running 110 av gas. but often sell 98.

in miami, dade corners (41 & 27) sells to airboats, and I think there was a station off sr 60 near river ranch.

has any one tried sebring airport?

as long as its not used on the street it should be legal.

Veloce Raptor

Heh. You said jugs.

JayG

At 2x premium for 106, that is dirt cheap, ~$6.00/gal

LuigiVampa

My biggest complaint is my credit card company assuming anyone buying a few hundred dollars worth of gas over the course of a weekend must be a crook and turning off my card!

Yeah I've called them in advance and no it doesn't work. Now I try to use different cards each time.

LexVan

Do you have the newer chipped cards yet? That should help/eliminate that issue.

NaroEscape

There's a race supply shop near us that sells race fuel to the local circle track racers. I've bought full 55 gal drums from them before....but I recommend DO NOT do that. Paid for 55 gallons, only pumped out 49 to empty and it was a sealed drum when I got it. Was told later " yeah, they usually never fill it completely!!" Wtf?? So now I fill my car and six 5 gallon jugs - 110 octane. Doesn't make it through the weekend, but it's close.

LuigiVampa

Most of them switched over to chips in the last couple of months. At Daytona in October I kept switching the cards out each day.

Curious if what you say will work in the future.

DanS911

"has any one tried sebring airport?"

We buy av gas from the airport all the time. Usually pumping it into jugs but last time I drove over, parked at the pump and filled 'er up.

It helps to have a pilots license but usually no questions asked.

CosmosMpower

COTA was charging 5-6 bucks for gas on site. There's an exxon 1/4 mile down the road at market prices but I think they pay the track to slow down the pumps to a crawl on 93 octane only on track days. Sucks.

CosmosMpower

Few hundred bucks a weekend? How many sessions do you drive?

rkeele66

Here in S. Cal we have been paying $9.50 to $10 per gallon forever no change at the track or wherever you go for 100 oct. we just suck it up and pay

chrisc

Just had a discussion with a well known tuner and a fuel rep. Was told by the fuel guy that 100LL AV gas is not a good fuel for race cars. He said it is formulated for lower revving air cooled engines typically operating at higher altitude (12,000' baseline) and it will affect oxygen sensors despite being low lead. He suggested using good quality 93 pump gas with the Race-Gas additive or the Torco additive. Think it's only sold by companies like Summit. The tuner said he would only use the Race-Gas additive if someone is trying to save a little money although he still suggests VP race gas. At current costs the Race-Gas method brings the price in around $6.00 a gal.

d15b7

hi. I've been told that about Avgas also by various race fuel reps (that it's not good for high compression race engines, etc). but I've also talked to lots of vintage and FF racers that have used it for years. my car is a Lotus Super Seven with a crossflow 1.6 (formula ford engine) with 11.8:1 compression, ported head, dual Weber DCOE40s, cam, etc. etc. since 1995 I've ran it on 100 LL Avgas (which is actually fairly high in lead!). it will definitely damage O2 sensors in the long run (my Lotus has none; when I'm tuning it I use one but remove it after I'm done). I don't know if my engine qualifies as "high revving" nowadays, but I shift between 6500 and 7200 rpm typically. in 20 yrs I've never had a fuel related failure or problem (plugs always look great -- no detonation. pistons look great too). many of the vintage guys run Avgas, especially as some use their cars on the street for fall day drives and nice buzzing around cars, and having 'real' race fuel on had is tough. a small added benefit of the Avgas is that it has special stabilizers in it and will not go stale for a long time. I've used Avgas that was in my tanks after 3 years and ran just as well as fresh Avgas (my car was down for 3 years due to an accident years ago).

I sometimes wonder if the fuel reps perpetuate this story, and that it gets around... but, to each his own, and make your own decisions, etc. YMMV!!!! (pun intended haha)

chrisc

I kinda mis-stated what I was told. The fuel rep did not say it was bad other then the oxygen sensor issue, what he said was just because it was 100 octane didn't mean the formulation yielded good HP in race applications. He said if it was that simple companies like VP wouldn't offer the zillion formulations shown in their brochure. The only way I can see to find out for sure is to run back to back testing with various fuels with someone like John Behe on his dyno.