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Have PCA, or any of the other clubs, ever flirted with doing endurance races longer then 1.5 hours? Are there any now or have there been any in the past?
I guess the point of club racing is to keep costs down so I guess that is why PCA limits it to 1.5 hours for an enduro?
I guess the point of club racing is to keep costs down so I guess that is why PCA limits it to 1.5 hours for an enduro?
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I've never seen a PCA enduro longer than 90 minutes but have run in 3 and 4 hour NASA enduros.
In my first enduro (the 4-hour one) the first 30 minutes were as exhausting as a sprint race, because I was viewing it as a sprint. Once I consciously tried to relax and just have fun driving it was great. I drove for 2 hours. It went very smoothly as the guys I conned into being my pit crew and co-driver had multiple years experience winning the NASA 25-hour race at Thunderhill. Made it easy for the newbie (me).
In my first enduro (the 4-hour one) the first 30 minutes were as exhausting as a sprint race, because I was viewing it as a sprint. Once I consciously tried to relax and just have fun driving it was great. I drove for 2 hours. It went very smoothly as the guys I conned into being my pit crew and co-driver had multiple years experience winning the NASA 25-hour race at Thunderhill. Made it easy for the newbie (me).
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I haven't seen one longer then 90 min but I think it's up to the local region. The protocols say that there must be a driver change after 2 hours so I don't see anyone doing one longer then that.
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I would like to see longer races.
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I think we may have run a 3hr pca race at Daytona the first or second year pca had an event there. If I remember correctly they let people run the first 1.5 like a typical enduro and ended it with a full course yellow. The 1.5hr cars came in while the 3hr cars stayed out and lined back up for a restart. They scored it like 2 separate races. The 3hr cars were required to make 2, 5 minute stops and have 2 drivers.
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I have a real fascination with endurance races and with Le Mans coming up I was thinking about what it takes to drive longer.
When I first started going to the track 20 minutes in the car seemed both like an eternity and over in the blink of an eye. Now it seems like they drop the flag and then the race is over - weird feeling.
I'd love to take part in a longer race so thanks for all the info sent. Going to look all of that over.
When I first started going to the track 20 minutes in the car seemed both like an eternity and over in the blink of an eye. Now it seems like they drop the flag and then the race is over - weird feeling.
I'd love to take part in a longer race so thanks for all the info sent. Going to look all of that over.
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Does this mean that we can already start daydreaming about the upcoming 25 Hours of Thunderhill? I wish someone would run a Cayman in that event. In the southeast, it looks like NASA and PBOC are the only ones as everything down here seems to be capped at 1 hour - 90 minutes (PCA, SCCA, etc.)
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Dunno about PCA but I have run 6 hour races with PBOC (day/night), NASA, and SCCA. A long race obviously limits organizers' ability to get multiple groups on track throughout the day, which usually means more event revenue...
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I've done 6, 12, 13 hour enduros. After 90 minutes or so you need to have the means to change tires. Multiple refueling stops also enters the equation. Bigger crews, busier pit lanes, more equipment. Great stuff, but it becomes a whole other set of logistics. 90 is still easily managed.
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AER! In a typical weekend, Friday is open track with your best afternoon time seeding your car in one the three classes, and on the grid. Saturday and Sunday each have 9 hour races.
You can run any race car with a log book; cars get grouped based on their lap times (AER has an algorithm to figure out if teams are sandbagging - cars that lap considerably quicker during racing will get moved up a group). And every car must run tires with at least a 180 treadwear, so a set of tires last a full race.
You can run any race car with a log book; cars get grouped based on their lap times (AER has an algorithm to figure out if teams are sandbagging - cars that lap considerably quicker during racing will get moved up a group). And every car must run tires with at least a 180 treadwear, so a set of tires last a full race.
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World Racing League came online last year. Ran 8 races I think - 16 this year.
I've done a couple with them, most recently a 12 hour at High Plains last Saturday in my Spec Boxster. You had some of the usual Lemons/Chumps type entries, but the GP1 class was mostly local SPBs (8 of them) with some BMWs and a Golf.
They run a good event - ton of fun.
I had a 4 driver team in my car - 3 hours per man. After 12 hours we missed 3rd position by a mere 47 seconds (my BS black flag for pass under yellow was the difference).
I highly recommend. And if anyone wants to join me, I'm running the car again at High Plains first weekend of September (9 hrs Saturday/7 Sunday), Hallett in mid October, and probably Texas World in December.
I've done a couple with them, most recently a 12 hour at High Plains last Saturday in my Spec Boxster. You had some of the usual Lemons/Chumps type entries, but the GP1 class was mostly local SPBs (8 of them) with some BMWs and a Golf.
They run a good event - ton of fun.
I had a 4 driver team in my car - 3 hours per man. After 12 hours we missed 3rd position by a mere 47 seconds (my BS black flag for pass under yellow was the difference).
I highly recommend. And if anyone wants to join me, I'm running the car again at High Plains first weekend of September (9 hrs Saturday/7 Sunday), Hallett in mid October, and probably Texas World in December.