MCS Suspension, Experienced User?
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MCS Suspension, Experienced User?
I had the Motion Control Suspension installed on my 3200 track weight 993 about a year ago. The car handles nicely....But note I am still running on the install compression and rebound shock settings front and rear. I am fearful of making any changes lest I spoil everything. I have had several message into Lex Carson at MCS, no response...although I must say he was responsive before I bought the system.
Steve Weiner has been helpful....start at the front, start changing settings one click at a time....Good Gawd, what a time consuming procedure. I'll do this but, not looking forward to the process.
So I am wondering if anyone on the Board with the MCS system, has played with their settings, and what did they discover? Any help will be appreciated.
Steve Weiner has been helpful....start at the front, start changing settings one click at a time....Good Gawd, what a time consuming procedure. I'll do this but, not looking forward to the process.
So I am wondering if anyone on the Board with the MCS system, has played with their settings, and what did they discover? Any help will be appreciated.
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I bought MCS recently too. I just talked to Lex yesterday. He even offered to meet me at Road Atlanta to help me setup the car. I would say try to call him again and leave a message.
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I have worked with several clients with MCS, and helped get them quickly set up at the track...
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Sweeps are the only way to learn (without having shock pots). You can have someone else set them up, but then you won't know the feel of the car and how to make changes in the future. Ross Bentley has a great ebook on shocks and there are some other resources out there.
Copious notes, track sessions, and a methodical approach are your friends.
Copious notes, track sessions, and a methodical approach are your friends.
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Sweeps are the only way to learn (without having shock pots). You can have someone else set them up, but then you won't know the feel of the car and how to make changes in the future. Ross Bentley has a great ebook on shocks and there are some other resources out there.
Copious notes, track sessions, and a methodical approach are your friends.
Copious notes, track sessions, and a methodical approach are your friends.
And sadly ($$ wise), once the basic setup has been established, fine tuning for that last 0.25 seconds requires absolute concentration during T/T, decent tires and a full on race attitude during the day - plus the copious notes and methodical approach.
A setup which works for one driver will often feel terrible to another.
Well worth it, though.
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I had the Motion Control Suspension installed on my 3200 track weight 993 about a year ago. The car handles nicely....But note I am still running on the install compression and rebound shock settings front and rear. I am fearful of making any changes lest I spoil everything. I have had several message into Lex Carson at MCS, no response...although I must say he was responsive before I bought.
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lex is not an email person. cal him.
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Thanks for...
the tips. I am communicating with Lex now.
Setting up for that last ???? is going to be a pain in the butt, and the settings will change for every track. I am running the install settings and N pressure, works well so far.
I will look for Bentley's book.
Thanks to one and all.
Setting up for that last ???? is going to be a pain in the butt, and the settings will change for every track. I am running the install settings and N pressure, works well so far.
I will look for Bentley's book.
Thanks to one and all.
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Lex is helping me
He writes the following....and I will give it a try. I just wanted a reference point for settings other than the recommended installation settings, and now I have them!
OK, LETS MAKE SOME CHANGES AS FOLLOWS:
FRONT= CAN PRESSURE 150 PSI
COMPRESSION 5 CLICKS FROM ZERO
REBOUND 6 CLICKS FROM ZERO
REAR= CAN PRESSURE 175 PSI
COMP 6 FROM ZERO
REBOUND 8 FROM ZERO
PLEASE TRY THESE NEXT EVENT AND THEN LETS CHAT AGAIN.
I can hardly wait for this experiment.
OK, LETS MAKE SOME CHANGES AS FOLLOWS:
FRONT= CAN PRESSURE 150 PSI
COMPRESSION 5 CLICKS FROM ZERO
REBOUND 6 CLICKS FROM ZERO
REAR= CAN PRESSURE 175 PSI
COMP 6 FROM ZERO
REBOUND 8 FROM ZERO
PLEASE TRY THESE NEXT EVENT AND THEN LETS CHAT AGAIN.
I can hardly wait for this experiment.
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Martin S., hope you don't mind if I piggyback on your thread. Maybe it will help us both if somebody can answer my rookie question.
I just read Ross Bentley's shock tuning e-book. Given that it's written primarily about 4-way adjustables and based on the fundamental idea that dampers serve two purposes. The two purposes being 1.absorption of bumps on the track surface and 2.controlling the speed of weight transfer that results from driver inputs. 1 is controlled by high speed adjustment and 2 is controlled with low speed adjustment. So, my question is if I only have two-way adjustable dampers, which characteristic is changed when I turn the *****, high speed or low speed? For example if I increase compression in the front am I tuning low-speed compression or high-speed compression?
I just read Ross Bentley's shock tuning e-book. Given that it's written primarily about 4-way adjustables and based on the fundamental idea that dampers serve two purposes. The two purposes being 1.absorption of bumps on the track surface and 2.controlling the speed of weight transfer that results from driver inputs. 1 is controlled by high speed adjustment and 2 is controlled with low speed adjustment. So, my question is if I only have two-way adjustable dampers, which characteristic is changed when I turn the *****, high speed or low speed? For example if I increase compression in the front am I tuning low-speed compression or high-speed compression?
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More biased towards high speed in most high end suspensions
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Martin S., hope you don't mind if I piggyback on your thread. Maybe it will help us both if somebody can answer my rookie question.
I just read Ross Bentley's shock tuning e-book. Given that it's written primarily about 4-way adjustables and based on the fundamental idea that dampers serve two purposes. The two purposes being 1.absorption of bumps on the track surface and 2.controlling the speed of weight transfer that results from driver inputs. 1 is controlled by high speed adjustment and 2 is controlled with low speed adjustment. So, my question is if I only have two-way adjustable dampers, which characteristic is changed when I turn the *****, high speed or low speed? For example if I increase compression in the front am I tuning low-speed compression or high-speed compression?
I just read Ross Bentley's shock tuning e-book. Given that it's written primarily about 4-way adjustables and based on the fundamental idea that dampers serve two purposes. The two purposes being 1.absorption of bumps on the track surface and 2.controlling the speed of weight transfer that results from driver inputs. 1 is controlled by high speed adjustment and 2 is controlled with low speed adjustment. So, my question is if I only have two-way adjustable dampers, which characteristic is changed when I turn the *****, high speed or low speed? For example if I increase compression in the front am I tuning low-speed compression or high-speed compression?