BFG R1 vs Hoosier R6 vs Hankook C51
07-03-2013, 08:25 PM
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10-02-2013, 04:03 PM
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Was able to compare new Z214 vs 4 heat Cycled Hoosiers and at Summit Point my times were almost exactly the same @ 1:23.9-80. Hankook's make more noise, but seem to behave well/predictable. My gut and Traqmate tell me "sticker" Hoosiers are .5 to 1 sec faster. For my car, Hankook's are $1k for a set, vs. $1.55 for Hoosiers, so 3rd set is free, I'm all in!! I hope Hoosier guys are listening. I will report back on how they perform to the cords as well.
10-03-2013, 06:02 PM
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Sad thing about Hankook is they could give 2 hoots about the US race market. We have been a dealer for several years and they never have enough inventory. Even the track side Hankook dealer has problems getting tires to support THEIR SPONSORED SERIES........
02-14-2014, 12:37 PM
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I have ran on all of the Hoosiers, Hankook, Toyo, etc. Won several races at Sebring/Homestead on Hoosiers & Han kooks (PCA/PBOC/NASA) in the SP3, R5, and GTS-3 Race series.
Although I have won the races on Hoosiers R6, I have just about had it with them & am going to try to BFG R1. The problem with the R6 is that when you run them REALLY hard, the tread distorts and on occasion will separate the tread & a great big wart will appear in the middle of your tread. This mostly happens in the front on 245/35-18. So far, the Hoosiers have cost me 2-wheels. The first was a BBS E-30 Magnesium Cup Car wheel that cracked from the intense out of round vibrations, and the 2nd was a BBS Motorsport wheel (inner barrel) from a tire blow out on the sidewall. The Hoosiers had MAYBE 5-heat cycles total.
My BEST lap time at Sebring (2:27.003) was set on an old ratty set of Hankook C-51's on 275/40-17 & 245/40-17. The problem with Hankook though is that they go out of stock & are a bitch to find. Also, you need about 2-3 full laps before they start to get sticky.
Woe to he who tries to set a lap record on the second lap with Kooks...You will spin.
SO...I am going to try to BFG R1 for the next NASA Race at Sebring in September. BFG's contingency plan is excellent! 4-New tires with 5-6 starters.
This will be interesting because I have a BRAND new set of R6, C51, and R1. I will try them ALL that weekend & record the data on my Traqmate for each set.
One last thought on Racing Lap times vs DE. I have NEVER ran my fastest lap at ANY track during an actual race. In fact, the last Sebring event my best RACE lap time was a 2:31 on the R6's. That is a full 4-seconds slower than my personal best. Rarely in racing do you get to drive the ideal line.
So my reasoning is, if the BFG's are more reliable & little bit slower 1/2 second per lap (heard arguments contrary) to that of the R6 ..does it REALLY make that big of a difference in a 35-45 minute sprint race with 70-cars on the track??
Hopefully, I can report back with all of the Lap time on ALL of the tires used on the same day on the same track. I do have an opportunity to run them at PBIR DE in July, but as an instructor I doubt I will have the time to mess around with tire changes between sessions.
BTW, my car is an 89 944TS (2,978 lbs with driver-NASA/PBOC and 3200 lbs with driver PCA)
DOES ANYBODY HAVE SOME GOOD INITIAL TIRE PRESSURE SETTINGS FOR THE R1'S????
Cheers! [/B]
Rokket
What's your verdict on C51 vs R1 vs R6?
Thanks
