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Old 02-04-2013, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ProCoach
Agreed, the 2500 Suburban is fine. I had a 1984, then a 1992, then a 2007.

The 2500 Suburban has leaf springs in the rear and torsion bar front suspension, real heavy duty.

The 1500 Suburban has coil springs all around. Not so much. The 6.0 liter is adequate.

The extra amenities (weight, axle ratio) of the Escalade and Yukon XL more than offset the extra .2 liters...
I have a 2005 Yukon XL and it has torsion bars in the front.
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If I recall the trailer is over 2500, the car 2500 +, scooter, tools, fuel, scrap booking supplies, guns, ammo, bible. I don't think 6000# is a bad estimate is it?
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Originally Posted by Matt Romanowski
I have a 2005 Yukon XL and it has torsion bars in the front.
The newer ones (2007+) are different.
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Originally Posted by ccamut
If I recall the trailer is over 2500, the car 2500 +, scooter, tools, fuel, scrap booking supplies, guns, ammo, bible. I don't think 6000# is a bad estimate is it?
I was actually thinking that was low, but I never carry just one bible.
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I forgot my Miley Cyrus blow up doll, really not that heavy but does take up some space.
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I forgot my Miley Cyrus blow up doll, really not that heavy but does take up some space.
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Originally Posted by ccamut
If I recall the trailer is over 2500, the car 2500 +, scooter, tools, fuel, scrap booking supplies, guns, ammo, bible. I don't think 6000# is a bad estimate is it?
Dunno. But our Airstream is ~6000-6500 GVR loaded, and our Landcruiser pulls that up and over on I-70 just fine. Any of the vehicles you are talking about can do it without even noticing.
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i use to tow a 24' Haulmark with a 3200 pound car, tools, gas, etc.. with a 1500 Suburban w Autoride and had no problems. I had a 2500 also and it was a little better but if you set it up correctly with the weight distribution hitch the 1500 and denali will work.
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Originally Posted by Pete
MB GL Bluetec diesel. Three rows of seats, long wheelbase and 7500# tow rating. 455 lb ft. torque in a package that will get 20 city and 24 highway miles (not towing). MB has air suspension. Price point should be comparable to Caddy
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I just leased a 2013 bluetec GL350 myself. Pricey, but it's the ultimate tow/snow/costco kid-hauler. So far, in normal usage over the first 2,000 miles (including 3 trips from sea-level up to 8,000+ ft and back) it has delivered 23.5 mpg lifetime average. It averages 32 mpg on the 4 hour drive down from the Sierras and across the flat central valley. And it's not even broken-in yet.

Since I will only be towing 5 weekends per year, with a light car and relatively flat terrain between me and my tracks.... I had no need to get a full Rambo dedicated tow rig. The GL has a 121" wheelbase, self-leveling rear suspension, and it covers ground like a luxury car. 455TQ, 7700 lb rated, Class IV hitch with 7-pin connector from the factory. All the safety gear. No compromise (other than the high msrp).

At least take one for a test drive.

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Do they make a Yukon XL 2500 DENALI?

I think I will wait for the new version. If they still don't listen and don't put a diesel engine in, at least the new gas engines will have better fuel economy...

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Originally Posted by Pete
MB GL Bluetec diesel. Three rows of seats, long wheelbase and 7500# tow rating. 455 lb ft. torque in a package that will get 20 city and 24 highway miles (not towing). MB has air suspension. Price point should be comparable to Caddy
This is a great tow rig. We haul all over the country with a trailex enclosed with one (shorter in height than a standard enclosed). It does push the rig around a little on certain higher speed corners with the short wheel base, but other than that, the MB doesn't know that trailer is back there. The Gl350 will make about 28 on the highway not towing. Towing has been around 12-13. We run at about 80.

My 2500hd with the 6.0 gas will make about 6-7 towing a full sized enclosed trailer at 80.
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you will not like the Denali SUV or Escalade for towing.
I hated mine.
I now have a Denali HD Crew cab Duramax - its a dream.
Maybe even overkill for pulling a 24' enclosed Featherlight.
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Old 02-08-2013, 04:58 PM
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Originally Posted by U4EEAH
I tow with a 2012 2500 Burb.It is the equal of any 3/4 ton pickup, except you can't spec it with a diesel. The 6.0 litre has a far higher torque peak than the older 8.1, so it is busier, but gets the job done just as well. The six speed automatic lets you keep it at pek torque when you need it, like I said, busy but works. Has a very short first gear resulting in low final drive ratio. Add a better trans cooler because the higher revs will generate more transmission temperature than the lazy grunt of an 8.1 or diesel. The comfort and versatility can't be beat. Twice the "truck" of any 150/1500.
My 2001 Suburban 2500 is a great choice as well. On the highway close to 17MPG NOT TOWING of course. Towing and staying at the speed limit I can get 8MPG. Around town 12-14MPG. It is also my daily driver and quite comfortable. Almost two years old now and 26000 miles. Like the bucket second row seats too. Bought for $2000 under invoice. Hendrick/Colonial Chevrolet Norfolk VA. Sales Manager is Mickey Yurigan (SP?) and highly recommend him and the dealership.
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Originally Posted by rstrahota
you will not like the Denali SUV or Escalade for towing.
I hated mine.
I now have a Denali HD Crew cab Duramax - its a dream.
Maybe even overkill for pulling a 24' enclosed Featherlight.
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I'll chime in here - and make a bet that rstrahota here is correct.

If you start off towing with a Suburban, you probably don't know what you're missing and will think the Suburban tows great. But making a back-to-back step down from a 2500 DuraMax to a 1500 gas Suburban will be painful.

I used to tow a 28' steel enclosed trailer with my old '04.5 2500HD DuraMax, back when I used to race motorcycles (6+ years ago now). Whole setup (including the truck) was around 16k lbs. With the weight distribution and sway control, I didn't know the trailer was back there. The truck just didn't seem to care. 70mph through the Appalachians and Smoky's and the only peep I heard out of the truck was a little more turbo whistle.

Fast forward a few years - this past summer I rented a bare bones 18' open-air Featherlite and towed it (with my ~3,000lb 944 on it) with my 2007 Avalanche (which is pretty much the same thing as a Suburban) and while I'd say it definitely towed "fine" and was well within the limits of the truck - it was NOT as effortless as my old diesel was pulling 2x the weight. Hills in Wisconsin on my way up to Road America from Chicago, I had several instances where the truck had to dig down into 2nd gear to maintain 60-65.

It'll do it. It just won't be a lot of fun.
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You could probably say the same about your 2500 compared to a Peterbilt. A Surburban / 1500 truck will tow a decent size trailer with no problem.

Suburban < 2500 < 3500 < DRW 3500 < 4500 < International/Freightliner, etc.


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