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Old 01-22-2013, 12:31 PM
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Default Willow Springs / Big Willow running a 1:32

Whats considered a good to very good time in a 08 or 10 GT3 from a skilled driver on this course ?
Performance tires or racing tires differences, and basically a stock set up.

From what I could find online a 1:32 is very good.
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I have seen a 08 GT3 stock do a 1:30 on R6, with a good driver.
Old 01-22-2013, 03:02 PM
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Time of year will make a big difference in lap times too. Jan temps can be near freezing, summer temps well over 100+ degrees. Wind and sand on the track all play a part at Willow Springs.
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Fellow Rennlister turning the fast lap !

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mq_CS...ature=youtu.be
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Originally Posted by mobonic
I have seen a 08 GT3 stock do a 1:30 on R6, with a good driver.
sorry but once it's on R-comps it's no longer "stock".

still, that's a stout time.
Old 01-22-2013, 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
sorry but once it's on R-comps it's no longer "stock".

still, that's a stout time.
The "stock" GT3 comes from the factory on R-comps. While the Sport Cups are not as fast as the R6s, they are still a R-comp.

The fastest we ever ran the stock Cayman S on R6s was a 1:32.0, but that was several years ago so I suspect we could run low 1:31 now (driver improvement) if the car were back at that spec.

So, I suspect Mo is right at 1:30 for a good driver, with a 1:29 or lower possible with a real hot shoe.

Our current best is a 1:24.8 at a weight/RWHP of 9.01 with aero on slicks (see avatar).

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I remember HH doing a sub 1:30 in a 10 GT3 at a GMG track day, but i dont remember what tires he was on.. all i know is they were not slicks as he drove the car to the track.

I think a 07-8 GT3 with R comps can do a 1:30 with good driver & 10 GT3 should be able to know 1-2 sec off that with the more aero, HP, and TQ.

My buddy did a 1:27 in a stock RS 4.0 with used R6's on a very cold day in Feb last year.
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Originally Posted by Krokodil
The "stock" GT3 comes from the factory on R-comps. While the Sport Cups are not as fast as the R6s, they are still a R-comp.

The fastest we ever ran the stock Cayman S on R6s was a 1:32.0, but that was several years ago so I suspect we could run low 1:31 now (driver improvement) if the car were back at that spec.

So, I suspect Mo is right at 1:30 for a good driver, with a 1:29 or lower possible with a real hot shoe.

Our current best is a 1:24.8 at a weight/RWHP of 9.01 with aero on slicks (see avatar).

Cheers,
yeah sorry, I wasn't very precise in my language there.

anyway, it's a pet peeve of mine..."my car is totally stock....except for <insert tire/brake/exhaust/chip mod>" which then makes apples to apples comparisons somewhat useless.

nice Cayman btw!
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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
nice Cayman btw!
Yep he has the second fastest GT3 lap at WSIR ....
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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Yep he has the second fastest GT3 lap at WSIR ....
hmmm...

wonder who has the fastest lap....


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Originally Posted by jrgordonsenior
Yep he has the second fastest GT3 lap at WSIR ....
...by less than 0.1 old man!

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Then a 1:32 is pretty damn quick for any car, I was impressed the 302 can holds it own !
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Originally Posted by pewter82
Then a 1:32 is pretty damn quick for any car, I was impressed the 302 can holds it own !
those 302's are impressive cars.

and Willow might be one of the great horsepower tracks on the planet, too, so size matters
Old 01-22-2013, 08:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Krokodil
...by less than 0.1 old man!

Cheers,
Sounds like this issue may be settled in Febuary.
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Willow is not a horsepower track. There are no 2nd-gear corners at all. Of course, horsepower never hurts.

I won't try to tell you the lap time you should be running. But here's an instructional video I made that might help you go faster.



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