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Old 07-23-2012, 08:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Streak
If they were going to cheat and smear the factory name don't you think they'd do something not so easily discovered? I mean, they knew the stall test was coming. Pretty stupid way to cheat that's why I don't think it was on purpose.
+1 you don't spend that kind of money and factory support to throw it away on standard scrutiny. A torn boot, vent line or cracked intake would be all it takes...shame.
Old 07-23-2012, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by turbochad
Teams get caught cheating all the time. Nobody talks about it, they just assess the penalty and move on.

I am still curious where the leak emanated from. Do they perform the stall test on each car after each race?

I am a huge Lizard fan and am glad they are past the dry spell. I agree with others here who believe that the racing shows that the car needs the extra power anyway. Sometimes cheating is just what must be done to make it fair.
You blaspheme! Blasphemy!!!!

But I'm going got adopt this attitude in a few weeks
Old 07-23-2012, 09:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Streak
You blaspheme! Blasphemy!!!!

But I'm going got adopt this attitude in a few weeks
it's only cheating if...

a) you get caught

b) everyone else if doing it and you're not

Old 07-23-2012, 09:30 PM
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Originally Posted by GuyIncognito
it's only cheating if...

a) you get caught

b) everyone else if doing it and you're not

If everyone else is doing it, its just an unofficial rules change.
Old 07-23-2012, 09:39 PM
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My bet is that Team Chevette could put a turbo on their engine and the scruts wouldn't notice it.
Old 07-23-2012, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by J richard
+1 you don't spend that kind of money and factory support to throw it away on standard scrutiny. A torn boot, vent line or cracked intake would be all it takes...shame.
Inquiring minds want the facts. I hope somebody will hear something and post the "rest of the story", but you are probably right that there is no story, just an unfortunate DQ. The next couple of races may clear this up.
Old 07-23-2012, 11:55 PM
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I'm curious to know what all FL have done after Le Mans to get the extra speed? It was nice to see Bergmeister gap the Vette coming out of moss corner enough to prevent a pass at the end of Andretti straight lap after lap! Had there been another lap the Ferrari might have made it.

I too would like to know details on the air leak...
Old 07-24-2012, 01:06 PM
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From FL's FB page:

"Hi everyone – we’ve received lots of questions on the Mosport results. As you know, we won the race, but the No. 45 did not pass post-race technical inspection and we did not receive any points for the race win towards the championship. Many of you have asked: What is an engine stall test? Why didn’t you pass? What does that mean? Here are some answers for you: After each qualifying session and race, IMSA (the regulating body of the American Le Mans Series) executes a series of checks on the top finishing cars to ensure that all participants meet the specified technical guidelines for their class. The stall test is one of these. The purpose of this test is to check that no more air can get to the engine than the rules allow. Controlling this is one of the ways the Series balances the performance of the cars. Performing this test is pretty simple. While the car is idling, the air intakes are physically blocked. Blocking the air intakes should eliminate all air into the engine, causing it to stall. If the engine does not stall, it means that some additional air is getting to the engine, and it is possible that extra air could create more power. There are many ways that extra air could get to the engine: cracks in the manifold, leaks in various seals, etc. To our surprise, the No. 45 did not stall during this test after the race and was disqualified. You can imagine all the mechanics and engine people pulling their hair out trying to figure out what had gone wrong. We could not see anything wrong, and so protested the disqualification. We investigated the issue more thoroughly when the car was returned to us, and found that the air cleaner had been improperly fitted. This caused the device to flex during the race and the seal to eventually fail. This is very likely what caused us to fail the stall test. While we are not certain that this caused us any advantage, rules are rules, and we support the Steward’s ruling. A very disappointing end to a great race. Now on to Mid-Ohio!"
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Sorry- but this is complete B.S.
Old 07-24-2012, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by wjfk32
Sorry- but this is complete B.S.
What an illuminating post.
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Originally Posted by wjfk32
Sorry- but this is complete B.S.
Corvette lover!
Old 07-24-2012, 03:03 PM
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Enlighten me then. If VW would throw a bunch of $$$$$ to IMSA this would all go away.

Far from a corvette lover.
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Originally Posted by wjfk32
Enlighten me then.

Far from a corvette lover.
Ferrari lover!

I call for a BAN!!!!!


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Originally Posted by wjfk32
Sorry- but this is complete B.S.
Which part? The rules? The explanation? The fact they're now going to Mid Ohio?
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The fact if the rubber on the cleaner was cringed or slightly bent to disqualify the win. Plus, just checking the 1st 3-winning cars and not chking the rest of the field is another.

If anything FL-#45 probably lost power if not fully enclosed.

I was fortunate enought to pick bergmeister's brain up in Limerock. He flat out said-"The performance rules etc..etc.. is not in our favor" Starting with the air restrictors...Just sux

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