Spec Boxster Racers
02-25-2012, 02:42 PM
#16
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Toyo still offers money in NASA, but not that I can see in PCA. Now there is a great reason to race your Boxster in NASA vs PCA !
http://www.nasaproracing.com/conting...ency_Info2.pdf
Regional info found here.
http://www.nasaproracing.com/contingency
02-25-2012, 02:46 PM
#17
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Dave, no you're not...
And you do need to give these a try. No power by comparison to the cup but the feel of everything is similar, just taken down in intensity, and with a set of fresh Hoosiers they are a hoot. This is all a shame there are three cars here ready to go and four in the making...
And you do need to give these a try. No power by comparison to the cup but the feel of everything is similar, just taken down in intensity, and with a set of fresh Hoosiers they are a hoot. This is all a shame there are three cars here ready to go and four in the making...
Now you could run Hoosiers and run in GTS2, and Hoosier has tire money to be won there as well.
02-25-2012, 02:46 PM
#18
Perfect Angel
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Well that's good news. I was looking for that and for some reason I didn't see that version.
Makes no difference though since Toyo isn't going to pay out if NASA doesn't sanction the series.
So this season at least we can't win tires.
Makes no difference though since Toyo isn't going to pay out if NASA doesn't sanction the series.
So this season at least we can't win tires.
02-25-2012, 02:49 PM
#19
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It's in Toyo's, NASA's, and the racers best interests to work this whole thing out and I am seeing progress just right here on RL, I'm sure others are watching and making notes as well.
02-25-2012, 06:09 PM
#21
The Penguin King
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If the two organizations are going to run slightly different rules, make the changes something that costs VERY little money to change (like in the $100's of dollars, not $1000's).
That said, with egos out of the way, I really don't see why NASA can't approach PCA and get a written agreement that allows them to use the same rules that PCA runs. There is nothing heinous at all in the PCA rules. The only thing different from the original rules that matters at all is the square setup, and most drivers seem to prefer that anyway. PCA has the greatest number of SpecBox drivers, many of whom would love to have more opportunities to race near their homes. The ability to run in both groups with the same car will ultimately help both organizations.
Same would hold true for SP996...
That said, with egos out of the way, I really don't see why NASA can't approach PCA and get a written agreement that allows them to use the same rules that PCA runs. There is nothing heinous at all in the PCA rules. The only thing different from the original rules that matters at all is the square setup, and most drivers seem to prefer that anyway. PCA has the greatest number of SpecBox drivers, many of whom would love to have more opportunities to race near their homes. The ability to run in both groups with the same car will ultimately help both organizations.
Same would hold true for SP996...
02-25-2012, 07:19 PM
#23
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02-25-2012, 07:57 PM
#24
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Hunt,
The 2012 NASA TOYO contigency form still lists Boxster Spec. Quit your whining
The 2012 NASA TOYO contigency form still lists Boxster Spec. Quit your whining
02-25-2012, 08:36 PM
#25
Perfect Angel
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I've received a similarly encouraging email from NASA. All is not lost!
Last edited by Streak; 02-26-2012 at 09:31 AM.
02-25-2012, 11:52 PM
#26
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I sure hope NASA also considers PBOC and POC along with their new version of rules and PCA's. It sure would be nice to get one single rule set, or some simple, very close, rule set with the differences being non cost items and nothing consequential, among all of the sanctioning bodies.
02-25-2012, 11:56 PM
#27
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If the two organizations are going to run slightly different rules, make the changes something that costs VERY little money to change (like in the $100's of dollars, not $1000's).
That said, with egos out of the way, I really don't see why NASA can't approach PCA and get a written agreement that allows them to use the same rules that PCA runs. There is nothing heinous at all in the PCA rules. The only thing different from the original rules that matters at all is the square setup, and most drivers seem to prefer that anyway. PCA has the greatest number of SpecBox drivers, many of whom would love to have more opportunities to race near their homes. The ability to run in both groups with the same car will ultimately help both organizations.
Same would hold true for SP996...
That said, with egos out of the way, I really don't see why NASA can't approach PCA and get a written agreement that allows them to use the same rules that PCA runs. There is nothing heinous at all in the PCA rules. The only thing different from the original rules that matters at all is the square setup, and most drivers seem to prefer that anyway. PCA has the greatest number of SpecBox drivers, many of whom would love to have more opportunities to race near their homes. The ability to run in both groups with the same car will ultimately help both organizations.
Same would hold true for SP996...
I know here in Texas it would not be hard to see a 30-40 car run group like that once all the racers felt good with NASA again, and I am sure with that car count NASA Texas would give those racers their own run group to do it.
How many Spec 996's are now in Texas ?
And say 30+ Spec Boxsters in Texas ? Maybe 40+ Spec Boxsters in Texas ? Does anyone know exactly how many Spec Boxsters there are in Texas ?
02-26-2012, 09:44 AM
#29
Perfect Angel
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I sure hope NASA also considers PBOC and POC along with their new version of rules and PCA's. It sure would be nice to get one single rule set, or some simple, very close, rule set with the differences being non cost items and nothing consequential, among all of the sanctioning bodies.
I could put together a simple spread sheet highlighting the differences and similarities.
02-26-2012, 10:20 AM
#30
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Viking,
I don't see how that will be possible.
in 2011 NASA and PCA were the same rules except PCA allowed 225/255 or 255/255 and NASA only allowed 225/255.
In 2012 PCA made very few changes to the 2011 rules based upon driver feedback and switching to the RA1.
In 2012 the POC/PRC have broken off following the guys that used to set the rules for NASA and now allow "open ECU tuning".
The goal would be to update NASA 2011 rules to also allow 255/255 and recognize the Toyo RA1 as the spec tire. Also to update the few things that PCA also recognized based on driver input.
Then PCA and NASA (nationally) would be in sync.
The POC/PRC on the west coast would still be doing their own thing with open ECU tuning. It is going to be hard to come back from that one.
I don't see how that will be possible.
in 2011 NASA and PCA were the same rules except PCA allowed 225/255 or 255/255 and NASA only allowed 225/255.
In 2012 PCA made very few changes to the 2011 rules based upon driver feedback and switching to the RA1.
In 2012 the POC/PRC have broken off following the guys that used to set the rules for NASA and now allow "open ECU tuning".
The goal would be to update NASA 2011 rules to also allow 255/255 and recognize the Toyo RA1 as the spec tire. Also to update the few things that PCA also recognized based on driver input.
Then PCA and NASA (nationally) would be in sync.
The POC/PRC on the west coast would still be doing their own thing with open ECU tuning. It is going to be hard to come back from that one.
I sure hope NASA also considers PBOC and POC along with their new version of rules and PCA's. It sure would be nice to get one single rule set, or some simple, very close, rule set with the differences being non cost items and nothing consequential, among all of the sanctioning bodies.