Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

How big of a muffler does a conventional PCA race car......

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 02-15-2012, 08:25 PM
  #1  
BostonDMD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
BostonDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 7,030
Received 21 Likes on 20 Posts
Default How big of a muffler does a conventional PCA race car......

need to pass the 88dB sound limit of Lime Rock?

I know the race is unmuffled, but it would be nice to be able to do at least one event prior to it, especially since it is the closest track to me.......
Old 02-15-2012, 08:31 PM
  #2  
Veloce Raptor
Rennlist Member
 
Veloce Raptor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: Guess...
Posts: 41,680
Received 1,453 Likes on 777 Posts
Default

..
Old 02-15-2012, 09:45 PM
  #3  
38D
Nordschleife Master
 
38D's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: About to pass you...
Posts: 6,624
Received 787 Likes on 401 Posts
Default

This...


or maybe this

Old 02-15-2012, 09:49 PM
  #4  
BostonDMD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
BostonDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 7,030
Received 21 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

I am going to order one of each....... just in case......
Old 02-15-2012, 09:53 PM
  #5  
MUSSBERGER
uninformed gas bag
(contemplating on whether gas bag is one or two words)
Rennlist Member
 
MUSSBERGER's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2006
Location: Melbourne Beach
Posts: 20,514
Received 171 Likes on 125 Posts
Default

Just stay close to Sean or Gary and point at them.
Old 02-15-2012, 09:58 PM
  #6  
bsztanko
Rennlist Member
 
bsztanko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 651
Received 12 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Come to the test and tune day two weeks prior. Unmuffled as well.
Old 02-15-2012, 10:01 PM
  #7  
BostonDMD
Rennlist Member
Thread Starter
 
BostonDMD's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2006
Location: SC
Posts: 7,030
Received 21 Likes on 20 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by bsztanko
Come to the test and tune day two weeks prior. Unmuffled as well.
Now you are talking...... when is that exactly?

I got to remember to get the car down to you guys soon, if I want to run in E at LRP.....
Old 02-15-2012, 10:05 PM
  #8  
bsztanko
Rennlist Member
 
bsztanko's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Posts: 651
Received 12 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Sooner the better....I'll text you the date tomorrow.
Old 02-16-2012, 01:14 AM
  #9  
white924s
Rennlist Member
 
white924s's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Menlo Park, CA
Posts: 2,176
Received 24 Likes on 15 Posts
Default

I'm not sure how relevant it is for you with a 911, but for what it's worth, last fall, my 924S with a 4-1 headers, a Lindsey Racing exhaust, and Magnaflow muffler got black flagged pretty much instantly. Some guys were experimenting with various contraptions attached to their muffler tips to try and attenuate the noise, but I had only limited luck with that.

I've since replaced the entire exhaust system on my car, and I'm looking forward to driving at LR without constantly being afraid of the black flag
Old 02-16-2012, 08:09 AM
  #10  
jittsl
Racer
 
jittsl's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: SA Texas
Posts: 443
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

I once was black flagged at Limerock driving my GT3 with it's STOCK exhaust. Street legal to drive down the main street but not legal on the racetrack! Locals are completely insane!!!
Old 02-16-2012, 10:29 AM
  #11  
M758
Race Director
 
M758's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Phoenix, Az
Posts: 17,643
Likes: 0
Received 8 Likes on 7 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by white924s
I'm not sure how relevant it is for you with a 911, but for what it's worth, last fall, my 924S with a 4-1 headers, a Lindsey Racing exhaust, and Magnaflow muffler got black flagged pretty much instantly. Some guys were experimenting with various contraptions attached to their muffler tips to try and attenuate the noise, but I had only limited luck with that.

I've since replaced the entire exhaust system on my car, and I'm looking forward to driving at LR without constantly being afraid of the black flag
I think my 944 spec would pass 88 dB. It has a stock intake and stock muffer. It is only missing the cat. I believe I did pass sound check at 86 dB, but my limit was 92 or 94 dB and I know I was well below that.
Old 02-16-2012, 10:57 AM
  #12  
Sean F
NASA Racer
Rennlist Member
 
Sean F's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: Westchester, NY
Posts: 4,778
Received 33 Likes on 19 Posts
Default

this...
Attached Images  
Old 02-16-2012, 11:18 AM
  #13  
IPguy
Three Wheelin'
 
IPguy's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Chicagoland
Posts: 1,281
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

try putting a "muffler" on the intake as well

the BMW S14 has significant intake "noise" when an unrestricted CF intake is used, damping the sound waves from the intake lowered to overall sound wave signature

my 2 cents, don't always look to the exhaust if the intake is very "open" or unrestricted (compared to stock)
Old 02-17-2012, 03:52 PM
  #14  
Dan Jacobs
Rennlist Member
 
Dan Jacobs's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Connecticut
Posts: 666
Received 57 Likes on 36 Posts
Default

Paolo,
We have, I believe,working exhaust for all cars at Lime Rock From 2.0 through Cup cars
your's included All you have to do is ask
Old 02-17-2012, 09:53 PM
  #15  
race911
Rennlist Member
 
race911's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Roseville, CA
Posts: 12,311
Likes: 0
Received 9 Likes on 8 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by IPguy
try putting a "muffler" on the intake as well
What we found was necessary for some of the carburetted cars at Laguna when they first started sound testing.


Quick Reply: How big of a muffler does a conventional PCA race car......



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 12:06 AM.