ALMS/IMSA Cup SPOILER
09-21-2011, 07:58 PM
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Turns 4, 6, and 9 are the turns that determine your lap times at Laguna. Glad to see you carry enough speed to remain in 4th thru T6 one of my favorites. All the IMSA cups seemed to pinch T9 a little too early at least that's how it looks on video. Arguably the most important turn on the track since so many seem to over slow their cars there.
As you said, it's a highly technical track. It seems that no matter how great your times are you always feel you left 1/2 second on the table. Great job for your first time there.....
As you said, it's a highly technical track. It seems that no matter how great your times are you always feel you left 1/2 second on the table. Great job for your first time there.....
09-22-2011, 12:25 PM
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09-22-2011, 01:21 PM
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Three Wheelin'
Turns 4, 6, and 9 are the turns that determine your lap times at Laguna. Glad to see you carry enough speed to remain in 4th thru T6 one of my favorites. All the IMSA cups seemed to pinch T9 a little too early at least that's how it looks on video. Arguably the most important turn on the track since so many seem to over slow their cars there.
As you said, it's a highly technical track. It seems that no matter how great your times are you always feel you left 1/2 second on the table. Great job for your first time there.....
As you said, it's a highly technical track. It seems that no matter how great your times are you always feel you left 1/2 second on the table. Great job for your first time there.....
The leaders in Platinum looked slow thru 9 and did not track all the way out, but had the fastest laps.
Looking at the Gomez video (white car 2.00) we also seemed to give up a bit thru 2#, it seems that you need to take an angle into it, which would give you an easier and tighter radius.
09-22-2011, 01:23 PM
#21
Three Wheelin'
More Videos:
http://vimeo.com/29176490
http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/...-spin-cup.html
Will post the race videos once we are done trimming those down to the relevant highlights
http://vimeo.com/29176490
http://axisofoversteer.blogspot.com/...-spin-cup.html
Will post the race videos once we are done trimming those down to the relevant highlights
09-22-2011, 01:42 PM
#22
Burning Brakes
Here's a link to my qualifying session on Friday:
We had some confusion on car setup, but it went ok. Managed P3 in Gold. This was my second time driving at Laguna, even though it's a local track.. damn sound limits!
As for T9, the wider the entry I took, the more understeer I'd get (but didn't really have it anywhere else). If I had more front downforce I probably could have used a wider entry... the Platinum cars looked much more planted in the high speed corners than the Gold cars (I was stuck behind some for nearly half of sundays race..).
-mike
We had some confusion on car setup, but it went ok. Managed P3 in Gold. This was my second time driving at Laguna, even though it's a local track.. damn sound limits!
As for T9, the wider the entry I took, the more understeer I'd get (but didn't really have it anywhere else). If I had more front downforce I probably could have used a wider entry... the Platinum cars looked much more planted in the high speed corners than the Gold cars (I was stuck behind some for nearly half of sundays race..).
-mike
09-22-2011, 02:25 PM
#23
Drifting
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Here's a link to my qualifying session on Friday:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su20R0ToMMI
We had some confusion on car setup, but it went ok. Managed P3 in Gold. This was my second time driving at Laguna, even though it's a local track.. damn sound limits!
As for T9, the wider the entry I took, the more understeer I'd get (but didn't really have it anywhere else). If I had more front downforce I probably could have used a wider entry... the Platinum cars looked much more planted in the high speed corners than the Gold cars (I was stuck behind some for nearly half of sundays race..).
-mike
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=su20R0ToMMI
We had some confusion on car setup, but it went ok. Managed P3 in Gold. This was my second time driving at Laguna, even though it's a local track.. damn sound limits!
As for T9, the wider the entry I took, the more understeer I'd get (but didn't really have it anywhere else). If I had more front downforce I probably could have used a wider entry... the Platinum cars looked much more planted in the high speed corners than the Gold cars (I was stuck behind some for nearly half of sundays race..).
-mike
09-22-2011, 08:51 PM
#24
Rennlist Member
After the bridge, our driver 88# was about in the middle, how wide do you enter turn 9?
The leaders in Platinum looked slow thru 9 and did not track all the way out, but had the fastest laps.
Looking at the Gomez video (white car 2.00) we also seemed to give up a bit thru 2#, it seems that you need to take an angle into it, which would give you an easier and tighter radius.
The leaders in Platinum looked slow thru 9 and did not track all the way out, but had the fastest laps.
Looking at the Gomez video (white car 2.00) we also seemed to give up a bit thru 2#, it seems that you need to take an angle into it, which would give you an easier and tighter radius.
Turn 2 was one of those where I still dont know what works best. Shorter distance tight line seemed faster but those cars that screwed a bit their line coming in and went long had an awesome shoot accelerating out of that corner.
S Pumpelly also takes a narrower line on entry. We looked at all our telemetry and it doesnt pay off to go wider on entry. What is really critical is to nail the apex camber on T9 to the extent it allows the tighter entry and most throttle to use ALL the track on exit:
Last edited by cgomez; 09-23-2011 at 01:15 AM.
09-22-2011, 09:09 PM
#25
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Carlos, great race, thanks for posting! Reminds me why I quit racing in GT3 cup.
Mike's (fleadh) footwork is unorthodox but his downshifts are excellent.
Mike's (fleadh) footwork is unorthodox but his downshifts are excellent.
Last edited by analogmike; 09-22-2011 at 10:38 PM.
09-23-2011, 11:44 AM
#28
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See you in Daytona?
09-23-2011, 11:53 AM
#29
Former Vendor
Good job Mike.
For me it was a STEEP learning curve as it was my first time at Laguna, and th track is a LOT more technical than what it appears on paper (or video games!).
Plus the surface grip changes by the minute due to weather and all those guys learning the track that go off and cover it with sand
http://vimeo.com/29176608
For me it was a STEEP learning curve as it was my first time at Laguna, and th track is a LOT more technical than what it appears on paper (or video games!).
Plus the surface grip changes by the minute due to weather and all those guys learning the track that go off and cover it with sand
http://vimeo.com/29176608
09-23-2011, 12:05 PM
#30
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See you in Daytona, my 3.6 will be drafting you 3.8 guys, hope my big wheels and tires will let me keep up.