OT: Race car wash and wax.......
08-05-2011, 06:07 PM
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OT: Race car wash and wax.......
Any pointers on what products and procedures to use for wash and wax.......
Not looking for a concourse finish, but something that looks good in the tracktime photoes and that doesn't require an entire week-end to achieve......
TIA
Not looking for a concourse finish, but something that looks good in the tracktime photoes and that doesn't require an entire week-end to achieve......
TIA
08-05-2011, 09:05 PM
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I use a tar or bug remover to get off most of the rubber. Then I clay the paint to remove tree sap and other biologicals, then power buff (PortaCable) the whirls and finally wax with Zymöl or PS21. 6 hour job. I don't do it very often, but it is a nice winter project. In the interim, I just remove the rubber and wash it.
08-05-2011, 10:28 PM
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Any liquid wax and a 10" buffer works wonders taking most marks off and takes minimal time. I use a light compound or glaze when I want to really make the paint look good, do it at the end of each track season.
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08-06-2011, 07:53 AM
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Dirty race cars are a sin. Race cars should be absolutely as spic and span as they can be at all times. I believe that this is an issue of pride and safety.
My 911 gets a thorough cleaning after each track event. This includes the underside, where I sometime use Simple Green or Oil Flo Safety Solvent. On the wheels, I use P21s. I am very careful with the wheels.
Topside I start with a wash. I use Sonax Car Shampoo. Have since 1987 or so. I buy from Car Care Specialties. I started buying from them in 1988 or so, and they have excellent product and process information on their web site. After the car is washed, I dry it and then get rid of rubber, et cetera, with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. Have since 1987 or so. I do not wax after every event... maybe every other event. I use either Harley's or Blitz carnauba wax. This includes the wing. The entire topside and underside process takes as little as an hour and averages about 90 minutes. I often complete the process right after arriving home from an event.
Have some pride... maintain a spotless race car... it is also easier to see your paint dots and/or anything amiss.
Most of the cars frequently raced in the Porsche Racing Club are as clean as mine in the paddock.
My 911 gets a thorough cleaning after each track event. This includes the underside, where I sometime use Simple Green or Oil Flo Safety Solvent. On the wheels, I use P21s. I am very careful with the wheels.
Topside I start with a wash. I use Sonax Car Shampoo. Have since 1987 or so. I buy from Car Care Specialties. I started buying from them in 1988 or so, and they have excellent product and process information on their web site. After the car is washed, I dry it and then get rid of rubber, et cetera, with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. Have since 1987 or so. I do not wax after every event... maybe every other event. I use either Harley's or Blitz carnauba wax. This includes the wing. The entire topside and underside process takes as little as an hour and averages about 90 minutes. I often complete the process right after arriving home from an event.
Have some pride... maintain a spotless race car... it is also easier to see your paint dots and/or anything amiss.
Most of the cars frequently raced in the Porsche Racing Club are as clean as mine in the paddock.
08-06-2011, 09:18 AM
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in a decent race series you are required to clean your race trucks once you have aligned then, let alone the race cars.
you should consult a fluid dynamicist to select which particular wax produces the optimum boundary layer effect for your car. Anticipate hours in the windtunnel.
You may think I am joking - must of the above is true. Finishes on yacht hulls (water is just another fluid, yachts move through two of them) are the subject of continual research and a number of finishes have been banned. Shiniest isn't fastest.
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you should consult a fluid dynamicist to select which particular wax produces the optimum boundary layer effect for your car. Anticipate hours in the windtunnel.
You may think I am joking - must of the above is true. Finishes on yacht hulls (water is just another fluid, yachts move through two of them) are the subject of continual research and a number of finishes have been banned. Shiniest isn't fastest.
R+C
08-06-2011, 11:42 AM
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Dirty race cars are a sin. Race cars should be absolutely as spic and span as they can be at all times. I believe that this is an issue of pride and safety.
My 911 gets a thorough cleaning after each track event. This includes the underside, where I sometime use Simple Green or Oil Flo Safety Solvent. On the wheels, I use P21s. I am very careful with the wheels.
Topside I start with a wash. I use Sonax Car Shampoo. Have since 1987 or so. I buy from Car Care Specialties. I started buying from them in 1988 or so, and they have excellent product and process information on their web site. After the car is washed, I dry it and then get rid of rubber, et cetera, with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. Have since 1987 or so. I do not wax after every event... maybe every other event. I use either Harley's or Blitz carnauba wax. This includes the wing. The entire topside and underside process takes as little as an hour and averages about 90 minutes. I often complete the process right after arriving home from an event.
Have some pride... maintain a spotless race car... it is also easier to see your paint dots and/or anything amiss.
Most of the cars frequently raced in the Porsche Racing Club are as clean as mine in the paddock.
My 911 gets a thorough cleaning after each track event. This includes the underside, where I sometime use Simple Green or Oil Flo Safety Solvent. On the wheels, I use P21s. I am very careful with the wheels.
Topside I start with a wash. I use Sonax Car Shampoo. Have since 1987 or so. I buy from Car Care Specialties. I started buying from them in 1988 or so, and they have excellent product and process information on their web site. After the car is washed, I dry it and then get rid of rubber, et cetera, with 3M Imperial Hand Glaze. Have since 1987 or so. I do not wax after every event... maybe every other event. I use either Harley's or Blitz carnauba wax. This includes the wing. The entire topside and underside process takes as little as an hour and averages about 90 minutes. I often complete the process right after arriving home from an event.
Have some pride... maintain a spotless race car... it is also easier to see your paint dots and/or anything amiss.
Most of the cars frequently raced in the Porsche Racing Club are as clean as mine in the paddock.
I've seen lots of very "clean looking" cars which were mechanical nightmares. Just because someone takes the time to wax a car doesn't mean it's well taken care of or well put together and just because someone isn't so concerned with mirror paint on their race car doesn't mean it isn't meticulously maintained.
Out here in AZ about 3 seconds after you unload off the trailer (let alone first on track session) its going to have a layer of dust over the whole car. We have so much sand on track if I wanted to keep a perfect show car paint job on my race cars I would have to respray it after every event!
in a decent race series you are required to clean your race trucks once you have aligned then, let alone the race cars.
you should consult a fluid dynamicist to select which particular wax produces the optimum boundary layer effect for your car. Anticipate hours in the windtunnel.
You may think I am joking - must of the above is true. Finishes on yacht hulls (water is just another fluid, yachts move through two of them) are the subject of continual research and a number of finishes have been banned. Shiniest isn't fastest.
R+C
you should consult a fluid dynamicist to select which particular wax produces the optimum boundary layer effect for your car. Anticipate hours in the windtunnel.
You may think I am joking - must of the above is true. Finishes on yacht hulls (water is just another fluid, yachts move through two of them) are the subject of continual research and a number of finishes have been banned. Shiniest isn't fastest.
R+C