How much air to work air jacks?
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How much air to work air jacks?
Does anybody know how much air it takes to fill the air jack system in a 996 cup car? I trailer my car with my suv and don't have room for a tall tank. I went to the welders supply and they have a 60 or 80 cu ft tank that seem small enough that I would consider bringing to the track.
Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
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Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
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Does anybody know how much air it takes to fill the air jack system in a 996 cup car? I trailer my car with my suv and don't have room for a tall tank. I went to the welders supply and they have a 60 or 80 cu ft tank that seem small enough that I would consider bringing to the track.
Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
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Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
Thanks
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Does anybody know how much air it takes to fill the air jack system in a 996 cup car? I trailer my car with my suv and don't have room for a tall tank. I went to the welders supply and they have a 60 or 80 cu ft tank that seem small enough that I would consider bringing to the track.
Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
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Is this adequate?
Also, is the pressure loss a linear equation like I was told? For example, if a full 80 cu ft tank is filled to 2100 psi, if I use 40 cu ft the pressure would be down to 1050 psi. Essentially, I would be down to about the 400 psi needed to lift the car after 65 cu ft.
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I have a small tank (60) and a large one (300). The 60 lasts about a race weekend at ~240 psi operating pressure -- you can basically put the car up about 8 times. The 300 lasts me most of a season (5-6 races).
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Thanks for all the responses. Great help.
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Bumping up this old thread as I’ve just got a nitrogen bottle set up with a 3.5mpa regulator. The 996 cup tech manual says not to run more than 30 bar (435 psi) through the system to avoid damage. With that in mind, so that I can adjust my regular correctly, what is the minimum psi required to safely lift the car? Would rather avoid sending one of the jacks through the roof (I have heard some horror stories!)
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Bumping up this old thread as I’ve just got a nitrogen bottle set up with a 3.5mpa regulator. The 996 cup tech manual says not to run more than 30 bar (435 psi) through the system to avoid damage. With that in mind, so that I can adjust my regular correctly, what is the minimum psi required to safely lift the car? Would rather avoid sending one of the jacks through the roof (I have heard some horror stories!)
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I would think about 400-450 psi to lift the car all around. You can probably use a 40 gallon? Can't remember what they are measured in like liters or gallons. Either way the 40 and 80 size are what's available and the 40 will work filled with Nitrogen.
Hope that helps.
Stu
Hope that helps.
Stu
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Dont forget if you make prior arrangements with Airgas or their equivalent they will deliver a tank to the race track for the weekend.
Easiest way to deal with needing air, without carrying the tank!
Easiest way to deal with needing air, without carrying the tank!
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I would think about 400-450 psi to lift the car all around. You can probably use a 40 gallon? Can't remember what they are measured in like liters or gallons. Either way the 40 and 80 size are what's available and the 40 will work filled with Nitrogen.
Hope that helps.
Stu
Hope that helps.
Stu
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It is a math problem and you have to do the math because I don't know it, nor bother, because I use my N tank for powering air tools and inflating tires too. Basically need to know volume of jacks and figure you need 10psi/100lb of car so a 3500lb car needs 350psi at the regulator. That's a down dirty rule of thumb. Then add subtract 50psi for how fast or slow you want the car to jack up. So while 350psi is a good guess on a 3500 lb car you might need 400psi. So then you can do the math problem on your 40cuft tank @ about 2000PSI depending on who you get your gas from. Then some leave the tank attached to hold the car up and some fittings leak. I always cut the tank off and locked the nitrogen in the lines with a cut off valve so I do not waste gas. Some people's lines leak and they pop the car up place airjack locks to keep the car up. Then have to juice the jacks up to get the locks out to let the car down. All that uses gas. So your answer is it depends! I use the 55cuft tanks in my pickup truck they are easy to move around. When travel racing by tractor trailer it's the giant 5ft tall I can't move those tanks by myself ones.