View Poll Results: What price would you pay for the book?
Would not be interested.
2
4.76%
$20-$40
22
52.38%
$41-$60
16
38.10%
$61-$80
1
2.38%
$81-$100
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2.38%
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Data Acquisition Book Pricing
#16
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I was hoping the author was somebody else talking about writing a book, but will be interested to read it all the same!
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#18
^ I think Mike is talking about Peter K, a/k/a "Lolaman", but I could be wrong..
The book sounds great. Maybe have him post up a TOC; like, say, what Amazon does, so one can get an idea of the topics covered, how the book is organized, etc.
The book sounds great. Maybe have him post up a TOC; like, say, what Amazon does, so one can get an idea of the topics covered, how the book is organized, etc.
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He should write a book of some sort. His posts at FerrariChat and his 'track wisdom' stories on his website are direct, informative, and well written, IMHO.
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Thanks, Mike, Cello, Joe. I appreciate the kind words. While there is a small tome along the same lines in the works, my focus is building my full-time private data driven coaching business based at VIR and writing a few articles for national magazines, educational websites and speaking at data and driving seminars. Just got back from the Technology Racing Conference on Long Island earlier this month. With over 10,000 individual files of Club Racing and DE drivers over the last fifteen years, I have a LOT of source material! Not platform specific, either.
I'm signing up on the list with Chris tonight. I'm that sure it'll be terrific! He's not only got the experience and horsepower on the subject, but can explain cogently how to "read" the wealth of information present in logged data. Giving life to these "squiggly lines" is a dynamic, ever-changing thing, just like lapping! Doesn't matter if it's an H Prod (or G Stock) car or a Historic Formula One car, it's all good information FULL of "low-hanging fruit." Chris will help a LOT of people harvest that information more easily. I'm definitely in at $41-$60.
Mark, I've enjoyed following your exploits in D Sports for some time. First with the SR3, then with the Stohr. I'm active sometimes on the Sports Racer board.
As far as Sports 2000 goes, I love those cars. I've bought and sold around four dozen in the last eight years, including three SR71's (all built by Steven). Have the track record at CMP and held the record at NJMP Thunderbolt for two years at 1:22.9 (beat Matt's earlier record in his SR71, then he got it back by a few tenths last year) and now have the last SR71 that Steven put on the pole at the RunOffs in 2004 over John, finishing second. They're like scalpels after the Prod and T1-T2 cars! Still love my Tiga though, you can go OVER the edge in that car and still bring it back...
Funny thing, I can "see" what the data traces look like as I drive. Does that mean I'm sick? lol!
Below, on the pole in an old Lola T-590 on the left next to gifted photographer Peter Harholdt in his yellow Pratt & Miller RM2. The last SR71 is behind Peter, driven by it's owner, Paul Tavilla.
I'm signing up on the list with Chris tonight. I'm that sure it'll be terrific! He's not only got the experience and horsepower on the subject, but can explain cogently how to "read" the wealth of information present in logged data. Giving life to these "squiggly lines" is a dynamic, ever-changing thing, just like lapping! Doesn't matter if it's an H Prod (or G Stock) car or a Historic Formula One car, it's all good information FULL of "low-hanging fruit." Chris will help a LOT of people harvest that information more easily. I'm definitely in at $41-$60.
Mark, I've enjoyed following your exploits in D Sports for some time. First with the SR3, then with the Stohr. I'm active sometimes on the Sports Racer board.
As far as Sports 2000 goes, I love those cars. I've bought and sold around four dozen in the last eight years, including three SR71's (all built by Steven). Have the track record at CMP and held the record at NJMP Thunderbolt for two years at 1:22.9 (beat Matt's earlier record in his SR71, then he got it back by a few tenths last year) and now have the last SR71 that Steven put on the pole at the RunOffs in 2004 over John, finishing second. They're like scalpels after the Prod and T1-T2 cars! Still love my Tiga though, you can go OVER the edge in that car and still bring it back...
Funny thing, I can "see" what the data traces look like as I drive. Does that mean I'm sick? lol!
Below, on the pole in an old Lola T-590 on the left next to gifted photographer Peter Harholdt in his yellow Pratt & Miller RM2. The last SR71 is behind Peter, driven by it's owner, Paul Tavilla.
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#26
Thanks, Mike, Cello, Joe. I appreciate the kind words. While there is a small tome along the same lines in the works, my focus is building my full-time private data driven coaching business based at VIR and writing a few articles for national magazines, educational websites and speaking at data and driving seminars. Just got back from the Technology Racing Conference on Long Island earlier this month. With over 10,000 individual files of Club Racing and DE drivers over the last fifteen years, I have a LOT of source material! Not platform specific, either.
I'm signing up on the list with Chris tonight. I'm that sure it'll be terrific! He's not only got the experience and horsepower on the subject, but can explain cogently how to "read" the wealth of information present in logged data. Giving life to these "squiggly lines" is a dynamic, ever-changing thing, just like lapping! Doesn't matter if it's an H Prod (or G Stock) car or a Historic Formula One car, it's all good information FULL of "low-hanging fruit." Chris will help a LOT of people harvest that information more easily. I'm definitely in at $41-$60.
Mark, I've enjoyed following your exploits in D Sports for some time. First with the SR3, then with the Stohr. I'm active sometimes on the Sports Racer board.
As far as Sports 2000 goes, I love those cars. I've bought and sold around four dozen in the last eight years, including three SR71's (all built by Steven). Have the track record at CMP and held the record at NJMP Thunderbolt for two years at 1:22.9 (beat Matt's earlier record in his SR71, then he got it back by a few tenths last year) and now have the last SR71 that Steven put on the pole at the RunOffs in 2004 over John, finishing second. They're like scalpels after the Prod and T1-T2 cars! Still love my Tiga though, you can go OVER the edge in that car and still bring it back...
Funny thing, I can "see" what the data traces look like as I drive. Does that mean I'm sick? lol!
Below, on the pole in an old Lola T-590 on the left next to gifted photographer Peter Harholdt in his yellow Pratt & Miller RM2. The last SR71 is behind Peter, driven by it's owner, Paul Tavilla.
I'm signing up on the list with Chris tonight. I'm that sure it'll be terrific! He's not only got the experience and horsepower on the subject, but can explain cogently how to "read" the wealth of information present in logged data. Giving life to these "squiggly lines" is a dynamic, ever-changing thing, just like lapping! Doesn't matter if it's an H Prod (or G Stock) car or a Historic Formula One car, it's all good information FULL of "low-hanging fruit." Chris will help a LOT of people harvest that information more easily. I'm definitely in at $41-$60.
Mark, I've enjoyed following your exploits in D Sports for some time. First with the SR3, then with the Stohr. I'm active sometimes on the Sports Racer board.
As far as Sports 2000 goes, I love those cars. I've bought and sold around four dozen in the last eight years, including three SR71's (all built by Steven). Have the track record at CMP and held the record at NJMP Thunderbolt for two years at 1:22.9 (beat Matt's earlier record in his SR71, then he got it back by a few tenths last year) and now have the last SR71 that Steven put on the pole at the RunOffs in 2004 over John, finishing second. They're like scalpels after the Prod and T1-T2 cars! Still love my Tiga though, you can go OVER the edge in that car and still bring it back...
Funny thing, I can "see" what the data traces look like as I drive. Does that mean I'm sick? lol!
Below, on the pole in an old Lola T-590 on the left next to gifted photographer Peter Harholdt in his yellow Pratt & Miller RM2. The last SR71 is behind Peter, driven by it's owner, Paul Tavilla.
I really enjoy reading the stuff from "The Pirate". No BS, no slack. He is a drill sergeant and man does he know his stuff. I have some of his posts from the S2 forum tucked away and go back and read them from time to time.
I think that you and I are getting hooked up through Joe, but if you want to send me a PM with contact info, I will call to discuss the new activity that I think Joe mentioned to you.
#27
book comparisons
Hi Everyone, and thanks for all the interest in a book. When I first started writing it over 3 years ago, I told myself it was worth $80-$120. Problem is there are few people who would plop down that kind of dough without reading it first. Once you've read it you'd probably say it was worth that. But even at those prices, I wouldn't sell enough volume to pay for the time it took to write a book. I'll never get back enough to cover those hours, let alone all the socializing moments I lost out on in the evenings & weekends I wrote. When I started writing there was only the McBeath book available.
The McBeath book is basic, geared for someone who has never heard of data logging. The Segers book is expensive, $80 for a black and white book. Last time I paid that much was for a college text book and even then it was printed on a 2 color press and more than twice the # of pages. It has a lot of equations, but not much on driver based analysis. I did buy it, but loaned it to a friend the next day and haven't seen it since. Don't even remember who I loaned it to which is upsetting because I loaned my Buddy Fey Data Power book to this girl I liked at the time, we broke it off and I never saw that book again. Then I bought the Templeman book, loaned it out, haven't got that back but at least I know who has it. And I never got around to reading that one either.... argh. At least it was in color and cheap off Amazon.
So my thought was $45 for the paperback and $60 for the hardback. Which would you prefer the paperback or hardback?
cheers,
Christopher Brown
The McBeath book is basic, geared for someone who has never heard of data logging. The Segers book is expensive, $80 for a black and white book. Last time I paid that much was for a college text book and even then it was printed on a 2 color press and more than twice the # of pages. It has a lot of equations, but not much on driver based analysis. I did buy it, but loaned it to a friend the next day and haven't seen it since. Don't even remember who I loaned it to which is upsetting because I loaned my Buddy Fey Data Power book to this girl I liked at the time, we broke it off and I never saw that book again. Then I bought the Templeman book, loaned it out, haven't got that back but at least I know who has it. And I never got around to reading that one either.... argh. At least it was in color and cheap off Amazon.
So my thought was $45 for the paperback and $60 for the hardback. Which would you prefer the paperback or hardback?
cheers,
Christopher Brown