Notices
Racing & Drivers Education Forum
Sponsored by:
Sponsored by:

Trouble mounting BFG R1's

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01-10-2011 | 12:49 PM
  #1  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default Trouble mounting BFG R1's

I bought a new set of these BFG R1 245/40-18 and 285/30-18's to be mounted on the stock 996 rims (8" wide / 18" diameter and 10" wide / 18" diameter).

Mounting is a breeze, but getting the bead seated on these rims is proving to be a real feat. I have used a bunch of different tire lubes (incl. silicone based) and have pressurized as high as 100 psi. The outside bead will not pop all the way around however.

I also put a strap around the perimeter of the tire before pressurizing, as suggested on some forums. Also to no avail.

Any suggestions?

Joost
Old 01-10-2011 | 04:05 PM
  #2  
TRT41's Avatar
TRT41
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,077
Likes: 67
From: Dallas
Default

Joost - I have never had any problems with them.
Old 01-10-2011 | 04:13 PM
  #3  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default

Maybe its the ambient temps these days that harden up the rubber by a tad too much. Spoke to someone at BFG today and they recommended taking them inside the house overnight and try again with slightly warmer rubber and lots of lube.

Greg commented that his installer is having trouble getting the bead seated on his from time to time as well.

What rims are you using?

JP
Old 01-10-2011 | 04:21 PM
  #4  
333pg333's Avatar
333pg333
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Feb 2006
Posts: 18,926
Likes: 99
From: Australia
Default

Originally Posted by flyingpenguin
Spoke to someone at BFG today and they recommended taking them inside the house overnight and try again with slightly warmer rubber and lots of lube.
At least he's honest...
Old 01-10-2011 | 04:21 PM
  #5  
Potomac-Greg's Avatar
Potomac-Greg
Drifting
 
Joined: Jan 2008
Posts: 2,641
Likes: 0
From: Suburban DC
Default

Originally Posted by flyingpenguin
try again with slightly warmer rubber and lots of lube.

JP
Old 01-10-2011 | 05:35 PM
  #6  
rlm328's Avatar
rlm328
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Aug 2007
Posts: 6,305
Likes: 309
From: Houston, Texas
Default

It is obvious they are not partial to the Dutch. I am glad to see that you bought the proper size so all you have to do now is give them to me.
Old 01-10-2011 | 06:16 PM
  #7  
onefastviking's Avatar
onefastviking
Race Car
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,549
Likes: 2
From: Texas
Default

There is an old trick to mounting large mud style truck tires when out in the back woods and there is no way to seat the bead. I can't explain because I really don't recommend it and there are some inherent dangers to doing it. Although I am sure if you Googled you could find some how to on it recommended from someone else.

And I will add, I have used this way before when in a pinch and it does work.
Old 01-10-2011 | 06:27 PM
  #8  
onefastviking's Avatar
onefastviking
Race Car
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 3,549
Likes: 2
From: Texas
Default

Here ya go,on Discovery channel no less, but remember, once again, NOT recommended by me.

http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/s...y-tire-change/
Old 01-10-2011 | 06:55 PM
  #9  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default

Originally Posted by onefastviking
Here ya go,on Discovery channel no less, but remember, once again, NOT recommended by me.

http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/s...y-tire-change/
Yeah, I saw a few of those vids on youtube. I am not planning on going that route. Risky at best when in the sticks, lunacy in my home garage.

JP
Old 01-10-2011 | 06:56 PM
  #10  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default

Originally Posted by rlm328
It is obvious they are not partial to the Dutch. I am glad to see that you bought the proper size so all you have to do now is give them to me.
If I did that it'd immediately double the value (and reliabilty) of your 951.
Old 01-10-2011 | 08:09 PM
  #11  
mglobe's Avatar
mglobe
The Penguin King
Rennlist Member
 
Joined: Apr 2006
Posts: 9,835
Likes: 119
From: Houston
Default

Originally Posted by TRT41
Joost - I have never had any problems with them.
So you have it done by Discount Tires, or NTB?
Old 01-10-2011 | 10:41 PM
  #12  
TRT41's Avatar
TRT41
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,077
Likes: 67
From: Dallas
Default

Originally Posted by flyingpenguin
Maybe its the ambient temps these days that harden up the rubber by a tad too much. Spoke to someone at BFG today and they recommended taking them inside the house overnight and try again with slightly warmer rubber and lots of lube.

Greg commented that his installer is having trouble getting the bead seated on his from time to time as well.

What rims are you using?

JP
I have the stock 5 spoke wheels.
Old 01-10-2011 | 10:44 PM
  #13  
TRT41's Avatar
TRT41
Burning Brakes
 
Joined: Dec 2007
Posts: 1,077
Likes: 67
From: Dallas
Default

Originally Posted by mglobe
So you have it done by Discount Tires, or NTB?
Discount tire, or any track support operation. Never tried it in my garage, never could figure out where to put a tire mounting machine.
Old 01-12-2011 | 04:55 PM
  #14  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default

Crap, I hate it when the pro's have an edge!

I had my wife take one tire to my local installer this morning to see if they could get the bead seated. Success!

I called the owner trying to get him to spill the beans on his secret sauce. The only thing he eluded to was that he has a special trick and that it took two guys...

I have three more tires that I'll be taking there tomorrow, so plan on watching his guys while at it.

Will revert...

JP
Old 01-12-2011 | 05:56 PM
  #15  
flyingpenguin's Avatar
flyingpenguin
Thread Starter
Pro
 
Joined: Oct 2007
Posts: 592
Likes: 2
From: Oegstgeest, the Netherlands
Default

Originally Posted by onefastviking
Here ya go,on Discovery channel no less, but remember, once again, NOT recommended by me.

http://www.yourdiscovery.com/video/s...y-tire-change/
Viking,

The more I look into this, the more I am convinced that the lighter fluid trick is only useful (albeit suicidally dangerous) in those cases where the gap between tire and rim is too big for initial pressure to build.

My problem is that the inside circumference (at the bead) is too small for the rim, and I don't think a kaboom will help in that case.

JP


Quick Reply: Trouble mounting BFG R1's



All times are GMT -3. The time now is 06:23 AM.