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Old 01-09-2011, 03:55 PM
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Agreed. Good find.
Old 01-09-2011, 04:16 PM
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Thats how ya do it!
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I am not seein' it. Looks like very relaxed, 'race pace while comfortably leading' driving.

Car appears to understeer pretty strongly too.

Nothing against Darren Law, or the team, or the car, but maybe this video just isn't the best example.

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Still a great display of smoothness and obviously not having to over brake since no one is around him and he doesn't have to battle for position
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Originally Posted by Premier Motorsp
I am not seein' it. Looks like very relaxed, 'race pace while comfortably leading' driving.

Car appears to understeer pretty strongly too.

Nothing against Darren Law, or the team, or the car, but maybe this video just isn't the best example.

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Watch it again & listen for when he gets on the gas, how far thru the corner he is before rolling to throttle. Some of that is understeer, some is not.










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I like the shifter arrangement. is that a slap shifter or ?? never apears to go side to side, only front back

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He makes it look sooooo easy.
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^ yup

Amazing corner entry speed, must be just teasing the brake pedal
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Originally Posted by originalmotorhead
I like the shifter arrangement. is that a slap shifter or ?? never apears to go side to side, only front back

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This is what I am trying to figure out......are you trying to get on the throttle as early as possible to obtain maximum speed at the end of the straight or do you have higher entry/midcorner speed and be later getting to full throttle? I assume data tells you with max speed at end of straight and total lap times.
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The car looks amazing . Watch his hands the car is very well balanced
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Originally Posted by p997s123
This is what I am trying to figure out......are you trying to get on the throttle as early as possible to obtain maximum speed at the end of the straight or do you have higher entry/midcorner speed and be later getting to full throttle? I assume data tells you with max speed at end of straight and total lap times.
I took some pro coaching from Chris Hall at Sebring and he got me to use less brake come off of it more smoothly and roll the car into the corner, except for T7. T7 is really the only threshold braking corner. Since my line was fine that is what we worked on. I picked up time and massive amounts of corner speed at the apex. What I was doing wrong....the way the PCA instructors taught me was to brake as late as possible everywhere. Chris said I had great late braking skills and that will come in handy for passing cars in the brake zone, but not the fastest way around the track, plus it is much harder on the car. I was almost threshold braking every corner....thus...unsettling the car and over slowing the car in the corner because it was unbalanced. The car was still sliding some and I had to make corrections but it was slower than the way Chris Hall showed me. I really learned a lot and the day I spent with him, going over data and watching him for some laps. His coaching was the best mod. My car is stock except for GT3 lower control arms up front and r-comp tires. I plan on more coaching to further my driving skills from Chris and hire some other coaches and learn from them too.
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Originally Posted by p997s123
....are you trying to get on the throttle as early as possible to obtain maximum speed at the end of the straight or do you have higher entry/midcorner speed and be later getting to full throttle?
Yes
Old 01-09-2011, 08:36 PM
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I noticed in this video Darrin got onto the throttle way after the apex in T13. There is some compression in T13 and you can really get on the throttle there to get the rear to stick. I know no lap is perfect but I wonder what Darrin felt on this lap?


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