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Old 04-17-2010, 10:44 PM
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Why is it that Porsche, BMW, and the others lose so often against Mustangs in road races? The koni races have had Mustangs dominate for a while now. Is the live rear axle and weight not as big of a hindrance as it should be?
Old 04-17-2010, 11:12 PM
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I know no facts but Id guess its all about handicaps and rules. Not a fair fight in other words. I would think its hard to make completly different makes/ hardware completly even. I watched that race today and the Porsches just did not look that impressive.
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Ford has a better marketing department than BMW, among other things.

What weight advantage? The Mustang is only 50 pounds heavier than the BMW.
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Looks like that may change in Grand-Am




GRAND-AM TO ALLOW PERFORMANCE ENHANCEMENTS FOR PORSCHES

Petaluma, CA (April 14, 2010)- Following a series of tests and development changes, TRG is proud to announce a number of performance enhancements granted to the marque by officials in the GRAND-AM Rolex Sports Car Series presented by Crown Royal Cask No. 16, as well as in the GRAND-AM Continental Tire Sports Car Challenge Series.

In GT, competing in the same category as a number of purpose-built, tube-frame racing cars has made it difficult in recent months for the uni-body, production based TRG Porsche 911 GT3 Cup cars that TRG has taken to victory, including at last year’s Rolex 24 Hours at Daytona. Running a top level program featuring top-line drivers such as Andy Lally and Spencer Pumpelly, TRG’s growing frustration culminated in the team’s decision to sit out at the most recent GRAND-AM round at Barber Motorsparts Park. TRG had never missed a prior round of GRAND-AM competition since the series began in 2000.

In the effort to improve tire wear, straight line speed, and overall handling, Grand-Am has allowed for a number of enhancements to Porsche, including:
-The upgrading from 3.6L to 3.8L engines
-50lb reduction of weight
-1/2 inch reduction of minimum ride height
-Larger air restrictor
-Allowing for the re-introduction to bodywork enhancements to the side of the car.



In the Continental Tire Challenge, GRAND-AM officials have also allowed for two key changes to the team’s entry in the efforts to improve straightline speed and handling:
-Upgrading from 3.6L to 3.8L engines
-50lb reduction of weight

As the winningest team in GRAND-AM GT competition, Team Owner Kevin Buckler applauds the series’ efforts to put the marque back on track and to work towards parity.

“The most recent round of rule changes from GRAND-AM should have a major impact on our program,” stated Buckler. “Our team is built on a heritage of winning, and I pride myself in putting the best crew and drivers in the series under our tent, but recently it’s been tough to show just how good the program works. We are a winning team and we’ve proven time and again that we know how to get it done, and I thank GRAND-AM for realizing just how difficult it’s been for Porsche teams.”

With preparations already under way for the next race at Virginia International Raceway on April 23-25, TRG is actively welcoming any sponsored drivers looking to join the multi-time series champions in either the Rolex or Continental Tire Series.

Similarly, the team is always open to creating opportunities for tests, track days, as well as their well known club racing program.

For more information, contact TRG at racing@theracersgroup.com









The Racer's Group 1995 S. McDowell Blvd. Petaluma, CA 94954

707-935-3999 www.theracersgroup.com
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Originally Posted by 1987Porsche944WithRealLongName
Why is it that Porsche, BMW, and the others lose so often against Mustangs in road races? The koni races have had Mustangs dominate for a while now. Is the live rear axle and weight not as big of a hindrance as it should be?
You cannot always look at pro series results as indicitative of the car's base performance. The rules makers alwasys try to adjusthing thing to create parity. However more often than not one chassis comes out with an edge. At best one chassis may have an edge a certain tracks vs others.


Racing comes down to power/weight/tire package/ ride height/ weight distribution and even fuel tank size as factors. Some cars are allowed very few mods from street stock. Others get many more.

Also when look at Grand Am GT classing remember only the 911 is tub chassis car. This menas the frame is a production frame. The other cars are all tub frame race car chassis iwth a body (which can be shaped to various cars) draped over it. This has very different impact on racing most tube chassis can optimally design suspension geometry and weight distriubtion. Stock tub cars are limited by the location and geometry of the road cars.



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