Just invested in my future - HANS
02-27-2010, 02:29 PM
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Just invested in my future - HANS
Well I realize that most of you already use a HANS or similar device but now that I am aiming at club racing after this season, I decided that I should get a HANS.
I went to HMS in Danvers, MA. They have a great showroom and equally great staff. They're often at PCA and BMWCCA DEs in the Northeast as well.
So,....I picked up a Sport model HANS in the 30 degree variant size L which I think worked better with my frame and 6-GT3 seat. I had Derek put the anchors in my helmet since I figured he's WAY up on the learning curve for such things. I've been playing with hooking the sliding anchors in and out so that I can get used to it once I'm back in my car.
Also picked up some new bleeder bottles which have magnets on the side which I thought was really clever (instead of standing the bleed receptacles on top of the empty brake fluid cans!). Picked up a bunch of fluid as well.
Got some new nomex gloves and Molecule wash while I was there. Man, that place is one stop shopping!
In addition to my HANS, my cage is almost done in the 986 so I feel like I've bumped up my safety level tremendously for this coming season. Very exciting!
I went to HMS in Danvers, MA. They have a great showroom and equally great staff. They're often at PCA and BMWCCA DEs in the Northeast as well.
So,....I picked up a Sport model HANS in the 30 degree variant size L which I think worked better with my frame and 6-GT3 seat. I had Derek put the anchors in my helmet since I figured he's WAY up on the learning curve for such things. I've been playing with hooking the sliding anchors in and out so that I can get used to it once I'm back in my car.
Also picked up some new bleeder bottles which have magnets on the side which I thought was really clever (instead of standing the bleed receptacles on top of the empty brake fluid cans!). Picked up a bunch of fluid as well.
Got some new nomex gloves and Molecule wash while I was there. Man, that place is one stop shopping!
In addition to my HANS, my cage is almost done in the 986 so I feel like I've bumped up my safety level tremendously for this coming season. Very exciting!
02-27-2010, 04:20 PM
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Definitely a shopping spree!
See you soon Brian.
See you soon Brian.
02-27-2010, 10:07 PM
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Slipper slope, isn't it? 
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02-27-2010, 10:15 PM
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Thanks for the comments guys. I agree....safety first.
The slope just keeps getting slipperier Mike.
The gloves I got were the HMS brand....nothing fancy but they fit like a glove.
The slope just keeps getting slipperier Mike.
The gloves I got were the HMS brand....nothing fancy but they fit like a glove.
02-28-2010, 01:02 AM
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^ are you going to get some paws embroidered on them?
you can't save money on safety - but once you start shopping, it's a slippery slope, for sure
you can't save money on safety - but once you start shopping, it's a slippery slope, for sure
02-28-2010, 04:32 AM
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interesting
interesting reply mobonic....I campaigned a 95 M3 in NASA Time Trials in 2008 with roll bar and 5 pt. harnesses but no HANS. I had made an offer on an OMP Pista (Halo style) seat 3 weeks before Hyperfest but hadn't sealed the deal yet.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
02-28-2010, 10:07 AM
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If I can figure out how to do it!
Yikes! C2 = not good. Glad you're ok.
interesting reply mobonic....I campaigned a 95 M3 in NASA Time Trials in 2008 with roll bar and 5 pt. harnesses but no HANS. I had made an offer on an OMP Pista (Halo style) seat 3 weeks before Hyperfest but hadn't sealed the deal yet.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
02-28-2010, 10:44 AM
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interesting reply mobonic....I campaigned a 95 M3 in NASA Time Trials in 2008 with roll bar and 5 pt. harnesses but no HANS. I had made an offer on an OMP Pista (Halo style) seat 3 weeks before Hyperfest but hadn't sealed the deal yet.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
I went off turn 8 at Summit Point to the outside at about 60 mph and spun backwards. I impacted a tire wall on the passenger side front then snapped around smacking the rear passenger quarter panel. I snapped the motor mounts right off the block. After signaling the corner workers I exited the smoking car, hopped over the wall, then hopped back to the car and shot my fire extinguisher under the hood. I walked to the track exit and when the EMT came my neck was hurting.
Went to the ER - and had broken my neck. C2 fracture- very high.
I got lucky - 3 months in a collar and I was fine, with only some lingering stiffness. My fracture was from side to side movement to the inside of the car, not forward. I suggest adding a net or Halo seat for any frequent track drivers.
Question: Does the HANS not stop sideways motion of the head/helmet ? I thought the tethers will also limit head/helmet turning. I guess your body slid sideways on impact(s) and the fracture was caused by your head rotating in the horizontal plane (ie, ear towards shoulder) ? Not trying to make you re-live this (sorry
), just trying to understand what it protects and what it does not. Maybe i do not understand the HANS ..
02-28-2010, 06:14 PM
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ckdc is correct.
hans will only save in a front to back scenario
for side to side (ala dale crash & death) you need 2 window net and/or a halo race seat.
If you use harnesses without a hans, its safer to just wear your 3 point.
No hans = 3 point seatblet only
Hans = harnesses
a hans will be worthless without harnesses
hans will only save in a front to back scenario
for side to side (ala dale crash & death) you need 2 window net and/or a halo race seat.
If you use harnesses without a hans, its safer to just wear your 3 point.
No hans = 3 point seatblet only
Hans = harnesses
a hans will be worthless without harnesses
