Prayers for Felipe Massa
07-26-2009, 09:33 PM
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What do they always say? "...I know a guy who knows a guy who knows a guy...Trust me, I don't make these things up..." 
Anyways, Kimi & Domenicali visited Massa today after the race before their trip home. Felipe was of course in coma but they saw him and his family and wished him well.
Kimi said it was very difficult Sunday for the team and him as they were thinking Massa but the good result was good for everyone.
Massa seems to have done pretty well this morning when they woke him up. He recognized the people and understood everything.
Doctor's will wake him up on Monday morning but only briefly and then put him back to coma.
If everything goes well, he might be back two months from now.
Anyways, Kimi & Domenicali visited Massa today after the race before their trip home. Felipe was of course in coma but they saw him and his family and wished him well.
Kimi said it was very difficult Sunday for the team and him as they were thinking Massa but the good result was good for everyone.
Massa seems to have done pretty well this morning when they woke him up. He recognized the people and understood everything.
Doctor's will wake him up on Monday morning but only briefly and then put him back to coma.
If everything goes well, he might be back two months from now.
07-26-2009, 10:43 PM
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This is from Autoraing1.com:
Godspeed Felipe.
This is from Autoraing1.com:
Massa doubts may last 'months' - Hartstein (GMM) Rubens Barrichello on Sunday fought back tears as he contemplated returning to his beloved Brazil, while his fellow Paulista and friend Felipe Massa is asleep in a Budapest ICU.
The Brawn driver told reporters that doctors would not let him see Massa, 28, when he visited the AEK hospital on Saturday, and that they "weren't able to tell me if he will be okay".
"It is a bit of an emotional moment," said Barrichello, who admitted he is torn between wanting to stay in Hungary and returning home to his wife and children.
"It is burning a little bit in my stomach, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't thinking of him in the middle of the race," he added.
FIA medical delegate and F1's travelling doctor Gary Hartstein, meanwhile, told Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport when asked about Massa that "weeks, if not months, must go by before we know for sure how he is recovering".
Police escorted the Ferrari driver's family, including his parents, brother and pregnant wife Rafaela, to the central Budapest military hospital on Sunday morning, and have remained at his bedside constantly.
Massa's personal doctor Dino Altmann was also with the entourage, and Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is due to arrive in Hungary on Monday.
The Brawn driver told reporters that doctors would not let him see Massa, 28, when he visited the AEK hospital on Saturday, and that they "weren't able to tell me if he will be okay".
"It is a bit of an emotional moment," said Barrichello, who admitted he is torn between wanting to stay in Hungary and returning home to his wife and children.
"It is burning a little bit in my stomach, and I would be lying if I said I wasn't thinking of him in the middle of the race," he added.
FIA medical delegate and F1's travelling doctor Gary Hartstein, meanwhile, told Italy's La Gazzetta dello Sport when asked about Massa that "weeks, if not months, must go by before we know for sure how he is recovering".
Police escorted the Ferrari driver's family, including his parents, brother and pregnant wife Rafaela, to the central Budapest military hospital on Sunday morning, and have remained at his bedside constantly.
Massa's personal doctor Dino Altmann was also with the entourage, and Ferrari president Luca di Montezemolo is due to arrive in Hungary on Monday.
Hospital cautious amid Massa recovery (GMM) Hospital officials remained cautious on Sunday despite saying Felipe Massa's recovery from serious head injuries is showing positive signs.
The medical director of the AEK hospital in central Budapest, which is renowned as one of the best neurological units in Europe, created alarm overnight when he said the Ferrari driver's injuries were "life-threatening".
Ferrari and formula one officials insisted that prognosis was alarmist, but Peter Bazso repeated his concern on Sunday, having awakened 28-year-old Massa briefly to conduct further tests.
While Massa's coma was briefly interrupted, it is said that he recognized his family and attempted to speak.
But when asked if the Brazilian's life is still in danger, Bazso answered: "Yes, of course.
"He is in an acute phase. What can come next, we don't know."
He revealed that Saturday's surgery was to remove broken bones in his skull, but said Massa had so far responded as expected from the injuries sustained.
Bazso refused to respond to speculation that Massa may be sidelined for the rest of the 2009 season, or that there may be permanent damage.
"At the moment, we have to overcome this life-threatening condition," he insisted.
Ferrari's team boss Stefano Domenicali visited the hospital on Saturday as well as on Sunday morning, and told reporters at the Hungaroring that he would return after the race.
His race engineer Rob Smedley has also been at the AEK hospital, where his wife and parents are at Massa's bedside having flown in overnight from Sao Paulo.
The medical director of the AEK hospital in central Budapest, which is renowned as one of the best neurological units in Europe, created alarm overnight when he said the Ferrari driver's injuries were "life-threatening".
Ferrari and formula one officials insisted that prognosis was alarmist, but Peter Bazso repeated his concern on Sunday, having awakened 28-year-old Massa briefly to conduct further tests.
While Massa's coma was briefly interrupted, it is said that he recognized his family and attempted to speak.
But when asked if the Brazilian's life is still in danger, Bazso answered: "Yes, of course.
"He is in an acute phase. What can come next, we don't know."
He revealed that Saturday's surgery was to remove broken bones in his skull, but said Massa had so far responded as expected from the injuries sustained.
Bazso refused to respond to speculation that Massa may be sidelined for the rest of the 2009 season, or that there may be permanent damage.
"At the moment, we have to overcome this life-threatening condition," he insisted.
Ferrari's team boss Stefano Domenicali visited the hospital on Saturday as well as on Sunday morning, and told reporters at the Hungaroring that he would return after the race.
His race engineer Rob Smedley has also been at the AEK hospital, where his wife and parents are at Massa's bedside having flown in overnight from Sao Paulo.
Massa swallowed his tongue Felipe Massa was unconscious when the paramedics first arrived on the scene in Hungary. When he came out of it he started to panic so badly, that during ride from the accident site to the track hospital he swallowed his tongue according to reports. Also, according to unconfirmed reports, a tracheotomy was done to guarantee his breathing.
Recall this was also done to Mika Hakkinen at Adelaide by Dr. Sid Watkins after a bad accident during the F1 race.
Recall this was also done to Mika Hakkinen at Adelaide by Dr. Sid Watkins after a bad accident during the F1 race.
07-27-2009, 10:28 AM
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My prayers go to Felipe and his family. I hope he recovers well enough to be able to witness the birth of his first child.
As for the injuries and him being in a coma I have had a lot of experience with a situation like this last year. My sister was in a horrible head on collision with her family in the car. She was driving and took the blunt of the impact. Her two kids and husband were all okay but she was not. She fractured her C2 vertebrae, broke her pelvis and her leg. The worst part of her injuries at the time of the accident was the C2 vertebrae but in the hours after it became the head injury. What is interesting about hers situation is that her head showed no trauma from an impact. There wasn't any bruising or cuts on her face or head anywhere. The blunt force of her car impacting head on with another car, having the airbag smack her in the face, and throwing her head and body back is probably caused severe bruising of the brain. This in turn caused severe swelling of the brain. I would imagine part of the reason the doctors have Massa in a coma is because they know or already know his brain is going through some trauma and is swelling. As everyone has said already keeping him in a coma is necessary to help limit this swelling to a minimum because there is nothing they can really do to help alleviate the pressure inside the skull. In my sisters case this was 2 weeks of a drug induced coma. They would bring her in and out of her coma every so often. When they would do this should would hardly respond to any stimulus. We feared for the worst but after the swelling went down and they started to bring her out she was a different person. A year later my sister is back at work and raising her family like nothing ever happened to her.
I know this is a long diatribe about my experience with head injuries but my purpose was to help some people understand that the brain is a mysterious and wonderful organ of the body. Someone as young, determined, and healthy as Massa can recover fully from this. It may take some time but I think we will see him back in a F1 car very soon.
As for the injuries and him being in a coma I have had a lot of experience with a situation like this last year. My sister was in a horrible head on collision with her family in the car. She was driving and took the blunt of the impact. Her two kids and husband were all okay but she was not. She fractured her C2 vertebrae, broke her pelvis and her leg. The worst part of her injuries at the time of the accident was the C2 vertebrae but in the hours after it became the head injury. What is interesting about hers situation is that her head showed no trauma from an impact. There wasn't any bruising or cuts on her face or head anywhere. The blunt force of her car impacting head on with another car, having the airbag smack her in the face, and throwing her head and body back is probably caused severe bruising of the brain. This in turn caused severe swelling of the brain. I would imagine part of the reason the doctors have Massa in a coma is because they know or already know his brain is going through some trauma and is swelling. As everyone has said already keeping him in a coma is necessary to help limit this swelling to a minimum because there is nothing they can really do to help alleviate the pressure inside the skull. In my sisters case this was 2 weeks of a drug induced coma. They would bring her in and out of her coma every so often. When they would do this should would hardly respond to any stimulus. We feared for the worst but after the swelling went down and they started to bring her out she was a different person. A year later my sister is back at work and raising her family like nothing ever happened to her.
I know this is a long diatribe about my experience with head injuries but my purpose was to help some people understand that the brain is a mysterious and wonderful organ of the body. Someone as young, determined, and healthy as Massa can recover fully from this. It may take some time but I think we will see him back in a F1 car very soon.
07-27-2009, 11:51 AM
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F1 pulled the incar video, however, there is a computer animation of it here- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZybt3eOAI
Ugly.
Again, how does a spring come off?
Ugly.
Again, how does a spring come off?
07-27-2009, 12:04 PM
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F1 pulled the incar video, however, there is a computer animation of it here- http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eHZybt3eOAI
Ugly.
Again, how does a spring come off?
Ugly.
Again, how does a spring come off?
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My prayers are with Massa and the family.
The F1 web site technical description of the incident does not coincide with the youtube video description above. F1 says the spring hit the cockpit surround first.
http://www.formula1.com/news/technic...9/815/681.html
Felipe Massa's huge qualifying crash in Hungary was triggered when the spring from the third damper on Rubens Barrichello's Brawn came loose. It hit the F60 firstly just in front of the cockpit (right arrow - near the triangular engine cut-off sticker), before then striking the cockpit's side protection (left arrow - quite damaged, this area is made of a special foam to absorb impacts) and finally the left side of Massa's helmet.
The F1 web site technical description of the incident does not coincide with the youtube video description above. F1 says the spring hit the cockpit surround first.
http://www.formula1.com/news/technic...9/815/681.html
Felipe Massa's huge qualifying crash in Hungary was triggered when the spring from the third damper on Rubens Barrichello's Brawn came loose. It hit the F60 firstly just in front of the cockpit (right arrow - near the triangular engine cut-off sticker), before then striking the cockpit's side protection (left arrow - quite damaged, this area is made of a special foam to absorb impacts) and finally the left side of Massa's helmet.
07-27-2009, 01:46 PM
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One shudders to think how much worse it could have been if things were two inches or so more to the center (or what a non-issue it would have been had it missed). Fortunately the ability for doctors to manage these injuries is so much better nowadays. I think the head injury that ultimately took Mark Donahue's life was not as bad as Massa's (based on outside descriptions).
Massa is a driver that just keeps getting better and better and he showed great class last season. Like everyone else here, I pray for a full recovery.
Massa is a driver that just keeps getting better and better and he showed great class last season. Like everyone else here, I pray for a full recovery.