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trackjunky 04-03-2009 09:00 PM

How do I convert Minutes to tenths of a degree?
 
I just had a revelation about my alignment. I am using SMART strings to align my car and the chart documents 10ths of a degree while Porsche uses minutes.

Factory GT3 rear toe is 0 degrees 10 minutes + 5 minutes/-0 minutes (per side). I need to convert this into 10ths of a degree to use the SMART strings chart. I'm no math wiz but here it goes:

60 minutes in 1 degree so 10/60 = .1667
+5 minutes would be 15/60 or .25

So rear toe in would be .1667 to .25. Using the SMART strings chart and a measured wheel diameter of 19" I should be 3/64ths to 6/64ths of an inch. Right?

Larry Herman 04-03-2009 09:04 PM

Sounds right to me. I used to setup my GT3 with 3/32s toe-in on each side. Was very stable & didn't chew up the rear tires.

trackjunky 04-03-2009 09:08 PM


Originally Posted by Larry Herman (Post 6450107)
Sounds right to me. I used to setup my GT3 with 3/32s toe-in on each side. Was very stable & didn't chew up the rear tires.

Interesting, that would be the factory maximum but my gut says that's where I need to be at. I'm at 3/64ths and it's not right. I think I have too little toe and when it squats under acceleration I go to toe out.

Bob Rouleau 04-03-2009 09:50 PM

Too little rear toe will also make the car wag its tail under hard braking.

MTosi 04-03-2009 10:00 PM

For a second I though I was posting over on the long range shooting boards... (Minutes or MOA are what we use to factor wind/elevation, etc.) Looks correct to me, although I'm used to going from Minutes to Mils and vice versa.

ltc 04-03-2009 10:10 PM

Download Convert.exe (yes, it's safe for downloading).
Very handy utility to have on your PC.

http://wscope.com/convert.htm

Larry Herman 04-03-2009 10:53 PM

Thanks Lewis. I had something like that on my old iMac, and always wanted one for my PCs.

mglobe 04-03-2009 11:07 PM

Bill you better check your units and see if you are supposed to be using metric degrees or not.

trackjunky 04-03-2009 11:32 PM


Originally Posted by mglobe (Post 6450392)
Bill you better check your units and see if you are supposed to be using metric degrees or not.

OK, I'm biting, what's the difference?

Larry Herman 04-04-2009 12:49 AM

Hey Bill, I have a few metric adjustable wrenches for sale if you need any. :D

mark kibort 04-04-2009 01:07 AM

on a 19" diameter, you can take the inches off parallel, and divide by the 19" diameter. just use a calculator and take that number and hit the INV TAN function. .5" is about 1.5degrees as you might find by looking at camber.
1/8" on toe, .125/19" Then use INV TAN, you will get .37 degrees or 22mins

trackjunky 04-05-2009 12:19 AM


Originally Posted by Larry Herman (Post 6450624)
Hey Bill, I have a few metric adjustable wrenches for sale if you need any. :D

Sorry. I just spent some money on a whole set of left handed screw drivers.

I'm saving up for some "L" bracket. All I have left are brackets shaped like "7's".

trackjunky 04-05-2009 12:24 AM


Originally Posted by mark kibort (Post 6450672)
on a 19" diameter, you can take the inches off parallel, and divide by the 19" diameter. just use a calculator and take that number and hit the INV TAN function. .5" is about 1.5degrees as you might find by looking at camber.
1/8" on toe, .125/19" Then use INV TAN, you will get .37 degrees or 22mins


Mark, thanks for the info. My brain hurt after reading that. Two glasses of Scotch and now I feel mutch butter. Camp't understnf whatcha' talkin bout.
:cheers:

Larry Herman 04-05-2009 12:17 PM


Originally Posted by trackjunky (Post 6452849)
I'm saving up for some "L" bracket. All I have left are brackets shaped like "7's".

Funny you mention that. I have a whole bunch of 7 brackets too, but when I put them in a box and shake it really hard, sometimes a few change into L brackets! Try it and see if it works for you.

Veloce Raptor 04-05-2009 12:23 PM


Originally Posted by trackjunky (Post 6450094)
I just had a revelation about my alignment. I am using SMART strings to align my car and the chart documents 10ths of a degree while Porsche uses minutes.

Factory GT3 rear toe is 0 degrees 10 minutes + 5 minutes/-0 minutes (per side). I need to convert this into 10ths of a degree to use the SMART strings chart. I'm no math wiz but here it goes:

60 minutes in 1 degree so 10/60 = .1667
+5 minutes would be 15/60 or .25

So rear toe in would be .1667 to .25. Using the SMART strings chart and a measured wheel diameter of 19" I should be 3/64ths to 6/64ths of an inch. Right?

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