Matias_S

This is one of the incidents I refer to in my post above. Same happened in DTM...

stownsen914

True, but it was Hans Stuck's comment about putting the Audis pretty much anywhere on the track in the turns and driving around the competition that caught my attention. HP doesn't get you that.

As for how much hp the Audis made, I have to confess that I don't recall the numbers offhand, but I remember reading about the Audis in an issue of VW&Porsche or European Car (whatever it was at the time), and I recall thinking that the hp number quoted in the article was not all that high, maybe 500-600 hp. Even back then the American V8s would have been making probably 700 or so.

Scott

ervtx

Yes indeed. (I compensate with a later apex, and probably lose more ground at turn-in vs. during track-out).

Can be mitigated with a little negative camber up front, combined with softer springs in front; stiffer in the rear. Helps get the front end moving in the right direction at initial turn-in... before the understeer kicks in under full throttle. Add the late apex and the experience is not so "grinding".

92tsiawd

Having been in the passenger seat and driver seat of a decently setup STi, I can honestly say that the car with AWD alters physics quite a bit, understeers quite a bit, you need to trail brake hard into the turn then get on the gas hard a lot earlier than I would in my C2. Basically the car feels completely out of shape but AWD helps it that much more on track with lots of slower corners

333pg333

Exactly, case in point. They're not all understeering pigs. Looks to me like that Audi would still give a Cup Car a real run for it's money.

srf506

In summary; more weight, more complexity/less reliability, less efficiency/power to the ground from the same HP motor.

earlyapex

Yes, and a winning combination when you get everything right.