Brake Pad Question??
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I have read the countless threads and more "knowledgeable" about the Pagid (yellow/black combo, black all around) and PFC pads than I need to be I think.
Beg-Intermediate driver, been running stock textar pads (has lasted 3 weekends, maybe could pull off another, not as hard on them as I could be yet) on street tires.
Needing to replace pads. On the posted threads, conventional wisdom suggests going to Pagid Yellow or Black pads.
Question is, do I really need to jump up that high in performance as I still have a lot learning to do? Is there a more intermediate option?
Looking at Pagid Sport pads, a step up from OEM or no? Haven't really seen too much posted on those...
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Beg-Intermediate driver, been running stock textar pads (has lasted 3 weekends, maybe could pull off another, not as hard on them as I could be yet) on street tires.
Needing to replace pads. On the posted threads, conventional wisdom suggests going to Pagid Yellow or Black pads.
Question is, do I really need to jump up that high in performance as I still have a lot learning to do? Is there a more intermediate option?
Looking at Pagid Sport pads, a step up from OEM or no? Haven't really seen too much posted on those...
Thanks...
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I use Pagid Orange front (probably going to Yellow next), and Pagid Black rear. The added bite of the Blacks gives some added bite to the rear brakes, or so the theory goes.
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Beginning and Intermediate drivers often brake more than Advanced drivers, putting more stress on the braking system.
I really like the Pagid RS 19 and the PFC 97. They have different torque curves though. The Pagid has a higher initial bite and a fairly flat curve. The PFC has a rising torque curve.
I really like the Pagid RS 19 and the PFC 97. They have different torque curves though. The Pagid has a higher initial bite and a fairly flat curve. The PFC has a rising torque curve.
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To the OP: please be careful not to use too aggressive a pad with street tires. You wil always be in the ABS and yoru car will feel like crap. Match brake pad bite with available grip (tires) IMO.
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The biggest badest brakes in the world still have to transfer thru those 4 tiny little rubber patches.
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Yeah, that's what I figured... with my skill level and street tires, would the Pagid yellow/black pads be overkill?
I get into the ABS with the stock pads as well. But, then again there's no reason why one couldn't get into the ABS with the stock pads, it's just a matter of how long the pads will last in that environment right?
Are the PFC '97s and or the Pagid Sport (anyone out there have any experience with these?) a better option?
I get into the ABS with the stock pads as well. But, then again there's no reason why one couldn't get into the ABS with the stock pads, it's just a matter of how long the pads will last in that environment right?
Are the PFC '97s and or the Pagid Sport (anyone out there have any experience with these?) a better option?
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I like PFC's on my track only car.
If you are looking for a pad that would see double duty on the track as well as the street I'm not sure PFC or Pagids are your best choice. I think Hawk makes some "agressive" street pads and this might be an intermediate step down that slippery slope...
If you are looking for a pad that would see double duty on the track as well as the street I'm not sure PFC or Pagids are your best choice. I think Hawk makes some "agressive" street pads and this might be an intermediate step down that slippery slope...
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I tried the Pagid sport as an everyday, but it would lightly squeal. So now, I use the stock pads for everyday, with none of the anti-squeal plates, and change to RS 19 for the track. Even without the anti-squeal plates the stock pads don't make any noise. I also am a beginner with street tires and really like how easy the RS 19's are to control. Must be that linear torque thing.
As a side note, I change the pads out at home so I'm using the RS 19 on the street for the day of or day before the track weekend. I thought that might be a problem as I'd heard they don't stop well when cold, which is all the time when you're street driving. But that hasn't been a problem, they work well on the street. Oh yeah, except for the howl that is loud enough to shatter concrete.
As a side note, I change the pads out at home so I'm using the RS 19 on the street for the day of or day before the track weekend. I thought that might be a problem as I'd heard they don't stop well when cold, which is all the time when you're street driving. But that hasn't been a problem, they work well on the street. Oh yeah, except for the howl that is loud enough to shatter concrete.
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I tried the Pagid sport as an everyday, but it would lightly squeal. So now, I use the stock pads for everyday, with none of the anti-squeal plates, and change to RS 19 for the track. Even without the anti-squeal plates the stock pads don't make any noise. I also am a beginner with street tires and really like how easy the RS 19's are to control. Must be that linear torque thing.
I am sure the RS 19s are nice, but at more than twice the price point vs. driver ability level, is it worth it?