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Old 08-24-2008, 08:27 AM
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I have set up my 88' 944 turbo over the summer while DE'ing and misc. track days with the intention of racing next year. My concern is that the E class appears to be quite small in PCA. In NASA it appears that the car won't be competitive in either GTS or Super Cup.
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E class is usually the largest/most competitive class in pca. Where do you live?
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Southeastern Michigan. Within 400 miles of several tracks.
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PCA flip-flopped the classes this year, the current E class used to be F class. If you are looking at past results keep that in mind.
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Unfortunately this guy ^^^^^^^^^^^^ will be in your (our) class.

He is way too fast, but a great guy.

The new E (old F) is a great place to learn how to drive.
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Your car can run in E or F with some further modifications. At Mid-Ohio this past year there were 12 cars in E and 8 in F. At Mosport I think it was 8 in E and 13 in F. The classes in E and F are usually well represented in the NorthEast.
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Thanks for the input. May be a good place to start.
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GTS with NASA is all about HP to weight. If you are in GTS2, there are several 968's and 944 turbos running in that class and they are very competitive with each other. The Great Lakes region has large GTS2 fields every event. I considered moving from GTS4 to GTS2 with another car just to have some fun with those guys.
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What have you done with your car? What makes you think it won't be competitive in SuperCup?
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As John said above GTS is HP/LB ratio. Drive against all types of BMW's and Porsche's. Not much you can't do to the car.
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Looking at the roster for this weekend's Chicago region club race at Road America, there are 30 "E" class cars registered. How many more competitors would you like? As previously mentioned, E & F typically make up their own run group within a club race weekend.
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Originally Posted by Team944S2
Looking at the roster for this weekend's Chicago region club race at Road America, there are 30 "E" class cars registered. How many more competitors would you like?
I would like a few less competitors, perhaps Hupfer, Poeltl, Crossman, Inglot, Clark, the Viaus... I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

But it is a great class
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Originally Posted by Mike in Chi
I would like a few less competitors, perhaps Hupfer, Crossman, Inglot, Clark, the Viaus... I'm sure I'm forgetting someone.

But it is a great class
You just need a better co-driver in your car. Perhaps for the next enduro I should share it with Jack Baldwin!
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
You just need a better co-driver in your car. Perhaps for the next enduro I should share it with Jack Baldwin!
Uhhh... you said "better" driver...

Besides, you turned down that ride once. You don't get another chance.
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What have I done to the car, HMMM, busy summer.


Solid stock 944 turbo with outstanding maintenance/records 86k miles.
Since May I have installed.......

Safety devices cage.
Momo wheel
Recaro SPG & Pole Position
Sparco Harnesses
Complete Racers Edge Package
(spherical drop links, delrin, camber, castor, A arms etc.)
968 MO30 sways
Torsion bars shaved to 10MM
MOTON CLUB SPORTS
Stainless brake lines
ATF Blue brake fluid
Brake cooling kit
Pagid Orange pads
K&N filter

Next....
Straight exhaust
GT LSD
???

All modifications made to remain compliant with PCA stock.


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