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Old 07-18-2008, 07:07 PM
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Originally Posted by ltc
There is however a 30 minute prerace special on Speed before coverage switches to Fox.

They did not do this the first Fox F1 race of this season and apparently there were MANY complaints to Fox; so the brought back the 'traditional' Speed F1 Prerace show.

The first Fox F1 race this year was a disaster (still much better than the best CBS coverage however), they basically started the program with the red lights just about ready to go out.
I hate that speed pre show: most of the time they show that knucklehead running around the grid begging for interviews.
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Maybe he will stepon Kimi's gear and there will be a brawl
Old 07-18-2008, 09:42 PM
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Originally Posted by roberga
I hate that speed pre show: most of the time they show that knucklehead running around the grid begging for interviews.
I like that little knucklehead named Peter Windsor. His problem is beyoned his control because F1 (unlike NASCAR) does not talk to the drivers about being media friendly to help advance the sport around the world.
Old 07-19-2008, 02:03 AM
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Originally Posted by ltc
A. Who can I blame this time?
B. Who haven't I thrown under the bus yet?
I heard the amigos

Originally Posted by early85944
No one, that is why I have to get on Rennlist to discuss F1
LOL...... yep mountain time for sure

Originally Posted by mdrums
I like that little knucklehead named Peter Windsor. His problem is beyoned his control because F1 (unlike NASCAR) does not talk to the drivers about being media friendly to help advance the sport around the world.

Martin brundle get the good interviews

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK3BrGOIwxI
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* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vO1Zj8ZtbkY
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=24SdA...eature=related
* http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4yUA_...eature=related
Old 07-19-2008, 12:29 PM
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Is that Alonso in front of a Ferrari ... LOL Haaaaaaaaaaa,

I guess a 2 timer is better than a 1 timer

Hammy
I guess Ferrari decided to give Massa a car this weekend.

Hamilton beats Massa to German GP pole

By Matt Beer Saturday, July 19th 2008, 13:06 GMT


Lewis Hamilton beat Felipe Massa to pole position for the German Grand Prix after a thrilling battle between the pair throughout qualifying.

The duo had topped a segment apiece in Q1 and Q2, before Massa put his Ferrari on provisional pole with his first flying lap of Q3, beating Hamilton by 0.4 seconds at that stage.

Massa then dug deeper and improved to 1:15.859 with his second lap, putting himself half a second clear of the field and looking assured of pole.

But Hamilton made an even greater gain, going over one second quicker than his previous run to beat Massa by nearly 0.2 seconds.

Heikki Kovalainen went off in the stadium section on his first run, then recovered to take third at the end of the session, alongside another remarkable qualifying effort by Toyota's Jarno Trulli, who took fourth.

Fernando Alonso (Renault) nearly found himself eliminated in Q1, having fallen right down to 17th before leaping back up the order with his last lap.

He then comfortably made it through to the top ten, and put himself in a provisional second place after his first lap before ending up fifth ahead of Kimi Raikkonen, who had an extremely muted session and only managed sixth.

Robert Kubica (BMW) got his weekend back on track following yesterday's crash and this morning's driveshaft failure by taking seventh place, despite a slight scare in Q1 when he only scraped through by 0.018 seconds having lost time behind Giancarlo Fisichella's Force India (which was also on a flying lap).

Present and future Red Bull trio Mark Webber, Sebastian Vettel (Toro Rosso) and David Coulthard completed the top ten, ahead of Timo Glock in the second Toyota

While Kubica overcame his earlier dramas to maintain his long streak of Q3 appearances, his BMW teammate Nick Heidfeld missed the top ten cut again after running slightly wide at the Spitzkehre on his last run, leaving him 12th.

Sebastien Bourdais was also left ruing an error at the same place, ending up 15th on the grid having locked up and slid down the hairpin escape road.

With the Toro Rossos in more competitive shape, Bourdais' error notwithstanding, it was almost inevitable that some of the bigger names would be eliminated in Q1 - especially as a scant 0.22 seconds covered ninth to 16th places in the session.

Williams and Honda both got one driver into Q2 - with Nico Rosberg and Jenson Button sharing row seven - but saw their other car eliminated at the first hurdle as Williams' Kazuki Nakajima and Honda's Rubens Barrichello found themselves 16th and 18th despite only being 0.2 seconds slower than their respective teammates.

Nelson Piquet (Renault) was the other big name Q1 casualty, missing the first cut for the fifth time in his ten Formula One races, and accused Vettel of blocking his fastest lap.

The Force Indias brought up the rear, with Adrian Sutil out-qualifying Fisichella, although even they were just 1.7 seconds off the pace.

[B]Pos Driver Team Q1 Q2 Q3 Laps
1. Hamilton McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.218 1:14.603 1:15.666 13
2. Massa Ferrari 1:14.921 1:14.747 1:15.859 16
3. Kovalainen McLaren-Mercedes 1:15.476 1:14.855 1:16.143 17
4. Trulli Toyota 1:15.560 1:15.122 1:16.191 21
5. Alonso Renault 1:15.917 1:14.943 1:16.385 19
6. Raikkonen Ferrari 1:15.201 1:14.949 1:16.389 19 ( FAIL)
7. Kubica BMW Sauber 1:15.985 1:15.109 1:16.521 20
8. Webber Red Bull-Renault 1:15.900 1:15.481 1:17.014 20
9. Vettel Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.532 1:15.420 1:17.244 22
10. Coulthard Red Bull-Renault 1:15.975 1:15.338 1:17.503 20
11. Glock Toyota 1:15.560 1:15.508 17
12. Heidfeld BMW Sauber 1:15.596 1:15.581 14 ( FAIL )
13. Rosberg Williams-Toyota 1:15.863 1:15.633 16
14. Button Honda 1:15.993 1:15.701 15
15. Bourdais Toro Rosso-Ferrari 1:15.927 1:15.858 15 ( FAIL )
16. Nakajima Williams-Toyota 1:16.083 10
17. Piquet Renault 1:16.189 7
18. Barrichello Honda 1:16.246 10
19. Sutil Force India-Ferrari 1:16.657 10
20. Fisichella Force India-Ferrari 1:16.963 10

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Old 07-19-2008, 04:07 PM
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Is that Alonso in front of a Ferrari ... LOL Haaaaaaaaaaa,
What's the likelihood that Alonso will finish in front of a Ferrari?
Old 07-19-2008, 05:28 PM
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What time is the race in Europe?

I'm in Spain on business. I think the time zone is CEST (GMT+2).
Old 07-19-2008, 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Russ Murphy
What's the likelihood that Alonso will finish in front of a Ferrari?
Those are some long odds, unless Ferrari has a mechanical failure.

This race is going to have an interesting start if Massa gets a good jump. I think Hammy and Massa will touch in T1 unless Hammy is clearly in front when they get there.

If they survive the first turn and it's not raining, it will be interesting to see if Hammy can drive away from Massa or not. And by "drive away", I mean a 8-10sec gap before the first stop.
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Originally Posted by A.Wayne
Is that Alonso in front of a Ferrari ... LOL Haaaaaaaaaaa,

I guess a 2 timer is better than a 1 timer
Sir A. Wayne.....2 words:

Fuel load.
Old 07-19-2008, 07:09 PM
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Shouldn't even matter if the Ferrari starts falling apart, like the collector is hanging by a wire maybe...?
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Originally Posted by ltc
Sir A. Wayne.....2 words:

Fuel load.
Ahh Hmmm oh yeah

RENAULT: Alonso pushed on to an impressive P5. "We are confident we have a competitive fuel load," said team official Pat Symonds.

Senor Skimpy 3 words, Ferrari Amateur Drovers !

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Shouldn't even matter if the Ferrari starts falling apart, like the collector is hanging by a wire maybe...?
Not to worry , if it rains , they will be schooled

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Old 07-19-2008, 07:25 PM
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Alonso was also a hair faster than Kimi in Q2. Not so sure Alonso is any lighter on fuel than Kimi...they both lost roughly the same time with race fuel loads.
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Originally Posted by jpinkert
Alonso was also a hair faster than Kimi in Q2. Not so sure Alonso is any lighter on fuel than Kimi...they both lost roughly the same time with race fuel loads.
Agree ! Hence Symonds comment ........................................
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I guess we'll find out tomorrow.
I'm still going with Alonso being amongst the first from the Q1 group to pit.


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