Le Mans debut for the RS
07-26-2007, 09:37 PM
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Err, here in Europe we don't care about American TV rights. Le Mans is Le Mans.
US circuits appear to favour the LMP2 cars more than European tracks do.
Its nice to see the US teams coming over and contesting GT1 and GT2, its been a few years since a US team contested for outright (sorry Champion is goosed all the way by Audi), it would be great to see them step up for outright, remember the Cadillacs? Unfortunately dropped just as they learned to make the cars go.
Were it up to me, I'd drop all prototype racing and introduce a GTR class that would be made up of cars like the C-GT, the Enzo, the unchained Maserati, etc. When I was a kid, I could cadge a ride on the street in the car that won Le Mans, now you have to sweat blood to get to drive them for a couple of laps on the track.
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Err, here in Europe we don't care about American TV rights. Le Mans is Le Mans.
US circuits appear to favour the LMP2 cars more than European tracks do.
Its nice to see the US teams coming over and contesting GT1 and GT2, its been a few years since a US team contested for outright (sorry Champion is goosed all the way by Audi), it would be great to see them step up for outright, remember the Cadillacs? Unfortunately dropped just as they learned to make the cars go.
Were it up to me, I'd drop all prototype racing and introduce a GTR class that would be made up of cars like the C-GT, the Enzo, the unchained Maserati, etc. When I was a kid, I could cadge a ride on the street in the car that won Le Mans, now you have to sweat blood to get to drive them for a couple of laps on the track.
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07-31-2007, 01:38 AM
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Originally Posted by srf506
Poissenot and the ACO can pontificate all they want on LMP 2 being privateers, but as he himself stated in discussing the collapse of LMP1 in the US and the threat of Audi to withdraw from ALMS if the Porsche RSR Spyders aren't reigned in meaning choked-down with the same restrictor as ACO than there's a problem. First-off, ALMS and IMSA placed the 5% restrictor on the LMP-2s. Secondly, American racing is deemed successful by TV coverage. No commercial TV network is going to tie-up 12 to 24 hours of prime weekend viewing time. Even at the last 12 Hours of Sebring I was told by a pretty reliable source within ALMS that Panoz had dipped into the coffers again to subsidize having the start and finish of the 12 Hours covered live. Even SPEED Channel couldn't make covering the entire 12 Hours of Sebring and the entire 24 Hours of LeMans pay in the American market
Collapse is GT1 in ALMS, not LMP1. It seems sometimes that people bash the privateers. It can go beyond backmarkers. Where have Clint and Jon Field spun another car this year?
Anyways, the Creation Autosportif team's new CA07 Judd has a 75 % carryover with the CA06/H Judd so the two ALMS teams will be able to buy new tubs, crash boxes, body, etc.
http://www.creationsport.co.uk/images/pdf/mag2.pdf
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/frame...ation&method=0
"Jamie Campbell-Walter was a little more than a second above Nic Minassian's Petit Le Mans pole time last year in the same car."
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=3318
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.php?sid=3836
New ALMS LMP1 team:
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=3445
Where are Audi's threats to withdraw from the ALMS?
Speed provided over 17 hours of coverage of the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
Originally Posted by srf506
who does the ACO think is going to fund the millions of NRE required to build these privateer LMP 2s and who will buy them if they don't have a shot at the top of the Podium? Why would I want to sponsor one?
Bruichladdich sponsors the factory Radical SR9 team.
http://www.bruichladdich.com/web_cam.htm
Originally Posted by srf506
If LeMans isn't careful they will become a niche race of one-off specialty machines (read diesels and hybrids) which, might be interesting, but won't attract much attention in the U.S.
All of the racing sanctioning bodies are walking a fine line right now. They've about killed innovation and competition in favor of "spec" racing where everyone looks the same. I really miss the human emotion in the sport anymore. Where are all of the "colorful" characters of the past that were creative and passionate about the sport? We need them back, and we need rules that'll let them be innovative and create some real excitement again.
All of the racing sanctioning bodies are walking a fine line right now. They've about killed innovation and competition in favor of "spec" racing where everyone looks the same. I really miss the human emotion in the sport anymore. Where are all of the "colorful" characters of the past that were creative and passionate about the sport? We need them back, and we need rules that'll let them be innovative and create some real excitement again.
Yes, I'd like to see Panoz racing a front-engined LMP again.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Zh1XFipV6Qo
http://www.racecar-engineering.com/i...ricracecar.pdf
Mika Salo didn't talk "spec" after the Mid-Ohio incident. Are privateers not passionate about the ALMS?
Le Mans-style racing: almost the last bastion of innovation?
Daniel Partel's words
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=2811
http://www.autoracing1.com/htmfiles/...0113Partel.asp
Ian Dawson is planning to race a new Lola with a bio-diesel engine.
http://www.endurance-info.com/article.php?sid=3906
John Travis, former Penske designer, has designed the Epsilon Euskadi LMP1 with production in Spain.
http://www.endurance-info.com/2008_L...di_LMP1_01.jpg
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsaugust06.html
http://www.mulsannescorner.com/newsfeb07.html
It might have a Zytek motor.
http://www.zytekgroup.co.uk/Default.aspx?tid=166
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.php?sid=3694
p.s. for Le Mans-style racing, don't forget about the three brake manufacturers, five tire manufacturers, many LMP chassis, engine, wheels, etc.
07-31-2007, 07:52 PM
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An article with Frans Verschuur in the picture
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.php?sid=3947
http://translate.google.com/translat...e.php?sid=3947
10-06-2007, 04:41 PM
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Horag Racing to race RS Spyder in Le Mans Series, the Mobil 1 Twelve Hours of Sebring, and the 11th Annual Petit Le Mans. Fredy Lienhard and Didier Theys will race the car with Michelin tires.
http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...k=view&id=3326
In March of this year, Didier Theys said Porsche should be in LMP1.
http://www.the-paddock.net/content/view/241284/49/
http://www.horag-racing.com/
Their Lola B05/40 Judd won the 1,000 km of Monza in April.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2...5-40-Judd.html
http://www.motorsport.com/photos/lms...on-am-0062.jpg
They have not raced their Lola B05/40 at the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
http://www.planetlemans.com/cmsv2/in...k=view&id=3326
In March of this year, Didier Theys said Porsche should be in LMP1.
http://www.the-paddock.net/content/view/241284/49/
http://www.horag-racing.com/
Their Lola B05/40 Judd won the 1,000 km of Monza in April.
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/car/2...5-40-Judd.html
http://www.motorsport.com/photos/lms...on-am-0062.jpg
They have not raced their Lola B05/40 at the 24 Hours of Le Mans.
10-06-2007, 11:27 PM
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I can only hope Speed has better coverage of ALMS races in 2008.
(7 races on Speed like this year)
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=3694
attendance surge of more than 40 percent over 2006
http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=3693
(7 races on Speed like this year)
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=3694
attendance surge of more than 40 percent over 2006
http://www.americanlemans.com/News/Article.aspx?ID=3693
10-07-2007, 06:49 AM
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Autocon has a budget of just $1.2 million.
http://www.autoconmotorsports.com/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...s19motors.html
http://www.autoconmotorsports.com/
http://www.signonsandiego.com/sports...s19motors.html
10-13-2007, 08:44 PM
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10-13-2007, 11:18 PM
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"All of the racing sanctioning bodies are walking a fine line right now. They've about killed innovation and competition in favor of "spec" racing where everyone looks the same. I really miss the human emotion in the sport anymore. Where are all of the "colorful" characters of the past that were creative and passionate about the sport? We need them back, and we need rules that'll let them be innovative and create some real excitement again"
You are absolutely correct. They have all sold out to the very likes of Porsche to name one OEM. If you want to race a Porsche in the US, the engine is either sealed or has to be rebuilt at Porsche. They won't sell the parts to any other engine builder. Try and you won't get the chassis parts you need. Is this racing or big business. The sad thing here is, when Porsche has had its fill, they leave a trail of destruction.
Its about time we all stood up and voiced what needs to be done here. Open up the racing and allow others to participate in all areas of the sport. The industry needs to support the sport when the economy slows down and the Sport needs to support the industry when its good.
Just think how good ALMS and Grand Am would be if different engine builders, chassis companies etc were involved. Now the characters return and so does the interest. Back come the TV people and so follow the sponsors. This is the "business" that racing needs to support, not the greedy hands of Porsche.
You are absolutely correct. They have all sold out to the very likes of Porsche to name one OEM. If you want to race a Porsche in the US, the engine is either sealed or has to be rebuilt at Porsche. They won't sell the parts to any other engine builder. Try and you won't get the chassis parts you need. Is this racing or big business. The sad thing here is, when Porsche has had its fill, they leave a trail of destruction.
Its about time we all stood up and voiced what needs to be done here. Open up the racing and allow others to participate in all areas of the sport. The industry needs to support the sport when the economy slows down and the Sport needs to support the industry when its good.
Just think how good ALMS and Grand Am would be if different engine builders, chassis companies etc were involved. Now the characters return and so does the interest. Back come the TV people and so follow the sponsors. This is the "business" that racing needs to support, not the greedy hands of Porsche.
10-14-2007, 02:29 AM
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"All of the racing sanctioning bodies are walking a fine line right now. They've about killed innovation and competition in favor of "spec" racing where everyone looks the same. I really miss the human emotion in the sport anymore. Where are all of the "colorful" characters of the past that were creative and passionate about the sport? We need them back, and we need rules that'll let them be innovative and create some real excitement again"
You are absolutely correct. They have all sold out to the very likes of Porsche to name one OEM. If you want to race a Porsche in the US, the engine is either sealed or has to be rebuilt at Porsche. They won't sell the parts to any other engine builder. Try and you won't get the chassis parts you need. Is this racing or big business. The sad thing here is, when Porsche has had its fill, they leave a trail of destruction.
Its about time we all stood up and voiced what needs to be done here. Open up the racing and allow others to participate in all areas of the sport. The industry needs to support the sport when the economy slows down and the Sport needs to support the industry when its good.
Just think how good ALMS and Grand Am would be if different engine builders, chassis companies etc were involved. Now the characters return and so does the interest. Back come the TV people and so follow the sponsors. This is the "business" that racing needs to support, not the greedy hands of Porsche.
You are absolutely correct. They have all sold out to the very likes of Porsche to name one OEM. If you want to race a Porsche in the US, the engine is either sealed or has to be rebuilt at Porsche. They won't sell the parts to any other engine builder. Try and you won't get the chassis parts you need. Is this racing or big business. The sad thing here is, when Porsche has had its fill, they leave a trail of destruction.
Its about time we all stood up and voiced what needs to be done here. Open up the racing and allow others to participate in all areas of the sport. The industry needs to support the sport when the economy slows down and the Sport needs to support the industry when its good.
Just think how good ALMS and Grand Am would be if different engine builders, chassis companies etc were involved. Now the characters return and so does the interest. Back come the TV people and so follow the sponsors. This is the "business" that racing needs to support, not the greedy hands of Porsche.
http://www.spiritofdaytona.com/
http://www.fabcar-usa.com/
fabcar chassis to be sold to others
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...=7329636487966
porsche not involved in project
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...=7329636740671
future of their DP
http://www.autoweek.com/apps/pbcs.dl...=7329636487966
http://grand-am.com/News/Article.asp?ID=9077
http://grand-am.com/Content/Photos/N...ANewSpirit.jpg
Huh? The ALMS?
http://www.americanlemans.com/news/Article.aspx?ID=2811
Greg Pickett on Grand-Am DPs
http://www.the-paddock.net/content/view/241368/49/