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Old 07-24-2007 | 05:55 PM
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THe F250 is too much truck for me. Im sure the diesels are nice but at this point I dont think I need that much truck nor do I think I can afford the extra expense right now. A friend has an F350 diesel that Ive driven, and that thing is awesome...
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Originally Posted by jmorris3
When I towed a 24' open steel trailer with the 250 I got 11.5 mpg and could'nt tell the thing was even back there.
Is that with a diesel?

My 8.0L V10 2500 Dodge tows my open trailer at about 10 mpg.
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The one pictured by jmorris3 is the best one made, with dual-cam sway control designed in. I have that one and it is great. ...
X2! Reese trunnion bar w cam sway control.
Old 07-26-2007 | 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by Larry Herman
The one pictured by jmorris3 is the best one made, with dual-cam sway control designed in. I have that one and it is great. ...

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X2! Reese trunnion bar w cam sway control.
X3 or would that be X4 since 3 people before have posted same. Actually JB recommended that hitch when he knew I was in the market for a trailer. I have a lot of unpleasant experience with trailers moving around; fortunately, without the bad outcome that some have described here. With the cam sway control, the trailer does not move around. The problem now is excessive speed.
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Old 07-27-2007 | 05:29 PM
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So here is a question for you guys, not so much related to towing, but what are your opinions on 2wd v. 4wd? I live in the Washington DC metro area. We dont get a lot of snow here. Typical storms will give us a few inches and the rare big storms can drop 12"+ on us. The only times that I think I will need 4WD is in the snow, and possibly at one of the tracks I go to (summit point) that can get quite muddy at times, especially since my friends like to paddock in the woods.

At this point Ive driven the new tundra, the silverado, F150 and the titan. Im a little worried about the engine problems the toyota was having earlier in the production run, and the silverado seemed a bit nicer than the F150. The Titan is my favorite so far but I cant get an 07 with 4WD. Hopefully Ill have the new truck next weekend!
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I personally think far too many people get 4wd when they don't need it.

The 3 benefits of 2wd are
1) Fuel mileage
2) lower initial cost
3) Lower ride height and in many cases a better ride

The biggest down side is you won't have it of you need it. The thing is how many days in a year would you need it?
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2WD is also less expensive to insure, generally, because repair costs are much lower.
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However, all other things being equal, you easily recoup your 4WD/AWD cost back on resale. Let alone being able to sell the thing........at least that's what has been strongly relayed to me by the half dozen car dealers I'm friendly with where I have my vending machines.
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I noticed in my manual that a 4x4 will not tow as much as a 2WD (2001 Ford F150)
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Originally Posted by J Silverman
So here is a question for you guys, not so much related to towing, but what are your opinions on 2wd v. 4wd? I live in the Washington DC metro area. We dont get a lot of snow here. Typical storms will give us a few inches and the rare big storms can drop 12"+ on us. The only times that I think I will need 4WD is in the snow, and possibly at one of the tracks I go to (summit point) that can get quite muddy at times, especially since my friends like to paddock in the woods.

At this point Ive driven the new tundra, the silverado, F150 and the titan. Im a little worried about the engine problems the toyota was having earlier in the production run, and the silverado seemed a bit nicer than the F150. The Titan is my favorite so far but I cant get an 07 with 4WD. Hopefully Ill have the new truck next weekend!
Also in the DC area. I just stay home that 1 day a year. And don't park in the mud at Summit.

Seriously, as already stated, resale is about the most compelling reason to have 4wd. All the yuppies decided along the way that 4wd was a requirement. My wife for example.

I learned to drive about age 12 in a surplus *****'s. Now THAT was 4wd the way god intended. We'd put a tire against small trees that would bend and 'climb' them. Until dropping the oil pan on a stump. Then that game was over. And towing. The ****** day job was putting boats in and out of a lake. Had a hitch on front and back and did two trailers at a time to and from the parking area. The 4wd (and low gearing) worked on the steep ramps when they got wet. Big 2wd stuff just spun on the wet concrete. Used several other (larger) trucks but nothing worked as well as the little 'Jeep'.
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Originally Posted by A930Rocket
I noticed in my manual that a 4x4 will not tow as much as a 2WD (2001 Ford F150)
You will find that the reduced towing capacity of a 4Wd is equal to the increased weight of the 4WD truck over the 2WD truck, at tleast that is the case with every 4WD truck I have owned. In our area, you will get killed at resale time with a 2WD full size truck, and you will need to place a factory order for one at most dealers, with a hefty deposit in place.
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I also live in the DC area and have needed 4WD on average 2 times a year. There were no tack days on either day, but if this is your daily, then you will be going very slow because of traffic and not traction.
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Well guys, thanks for all of the help! I just got back from the dealer, and traded in my previous daily driver for a leftover new 2006 Nissan Titan King Cab SE 4x2 w/ tow package. I left the dealership paying $22,000 to get the truck on the road. Next up... trailer shopping. Thanks again for all of the help! :
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I've skimmed over most of the posts about hauling a race car. And a used Jerr-Dan Rollback fits my daydream. I've never seen them used, but my experience is limited.
What's the downside to a separate trailer and tow vehicle?


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