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Old 05-09-2007, 07:40 AM
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Default PCA enduro refueling Q - fire protection for 2nd crewmember?

Question for those of you who have run PCA enduros and refueled.

I am running the Mid-O enduro next week and am planning to add fuel during my pit stop.

However, I'm confused as what the crew member holding the fire extinguisher must wear. The rules spell out what the person dumping the fuel must be wearing, but notes the fireman must be wearing "full fire safety gear."

Does this imply the same gear as the person dumping the fuel? Or do I have to buy full firefighter/turnout gear for my crewmember?

No, I haven't written to the PCA volunteers as I figured I'd get the correct information here quicker. Unfortunately, searching the archives turned up nothing.

Thanks for the input.
Old 05-09-2007, 07:46 AM
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http://www.pca.org/clubrace/07%20Rule%20Book.pdf
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Thanks Bill,

I've read through it several times but am still unclear what the fireman is supposed to be wearing (i.e. what is meant by 'full fire safety gear').
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I read it to mean fire saftey suit (drivers suit), shoes, gloves, balaclava, and full face helmet with the visor down or open face helmet with goggles. Make sure the visor is down.

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Same as the fueler.
at least, single layer 3.2/1 fire suit, gloves (we use mechnics type and no one has complained), nomex hood with goggles or full helmet with visor closed
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Thanks for the input. The rules didn't refer to the fueler's attire as 'full fire safety gear' so I didn't make the connection.
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Since the driver has to be out of the car during refueling just have the driver (you) hold the fire extinguisher. This keeps it to a team of two including the driver.
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Originally Posted by chrisp
Since the driver has to be out of the car during refueling just have the driver (you) hold the fire extinguisher. This keeps it to a team of two including the driver.
I was planning on doing the fueling since I'll be suited up and my father acting as the fireman. He has everything but the suit so guess I'll have to borrow one or buy a cheap proban suit for him.
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ok. now I understand. maybe a friend in the paddock can loan you the gear. also, they are pretty particular about the extinguisher requirements and little details like the shield being down (if they wear a helmet).
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Originally Posted by chrisp
ok. now I understand. maybe a friend in the paddock can loan you the gear. also, they are pretty particular about the extinguisher requirements and little details like the shield being down (if they wear a helmet).
Thanks. I bought the proper sized 10# extinguisher so OK there. I'm going to put a piece of racer's tape on the gas flap to remind myself to keep the shield down.

My dad and I are about the same size so I might buy a cheap proban suit for him and I can wear it for hot DE days as well.
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I've actually held the extinguisher for other racers and I've had them do the same for me. It shouldn't be a problem finding someone there to help you out. We switch drivers so one of us is always sitting in the hotpits willing to help a brother out.



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