Brian Fugok

I often don't have a partner to help when I need to do this. Does anyone have any comments on the Speed Bleeders or the Motive Power Bleeder?

TIA

John Veninger

I use the Motive Power Bleeder. Works great!
I think <a href="http://www.928GT.com" target="_blank">www.928GT.com</a> sells it for about 40.00.

Skip Wolfe

The Motive Power Bleeder is probably the single best tool purchase I've made. Makes bleeding brakes by yourself a piece of cake

Brian Fugok

Thanks for the feedback. I think I'll give Jason at Paragon a call and place an order.

Happy mother's day to all of our 'better halves'. Today is one of the days I get to thank mine for putting up with this 'hobby'.

Tom

Speed Bleeders also help a lot since the check valve keeps air from getting back into the system, and they are cheap. Mityvac vacuum pump also works well.

HarryD

I use a Mityvac and have problems with sucking air by the bleeder screw. I solve the problem with a bit of teflon tape on the threads.

SPR

You have to get the motul bleeder! Best thing I have ever used. made it so easy I was laughing and praising it throughout the whole process.

Barry Lenoble

My suggestion:

Get Speedbleeder bleed nipples, and 1 (or 2 if you have
dual / quad piston calipers) bleed bottles from Harbor Freight.
Those cost about $5 each.

Connect the hose to the bleed nipple (or more) open the
nipple, then pump the brake pedal 4-5 times). Close
the nipples and move to the next caliper.

Cheap and easy!

Barry

Greg Fishman

Barry,
This is an absolute no-no on 993's. You will damage your master cylinder if you bleed your brakes this way and could lead to brake failure.

David K.

Motive Power Bleeder

A930Rocket

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Greg Fishman:
<strong>Barry,
This is an absolute no-no on 993's. You will damage your master cylinder if you bleed your brakes this way and could lead to brake failure.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Greg, why is that? Just wondering.

Jim

Greg Fishman

Jim,
Excuse me if I don't relay the correct technical names of the components I speak of.
If you bleed the brakes the old fashioned way you will over extend the "plungers" in the master cylinder. This will shorten the life of it dramatically and possibly cause brake failure.

A pressure bleeder is easy and the correct method, so why do anything different?

PhilW

I like the Motive Power Bleeder (it keeps the peace in a marriage), but I made a few annoying mistakes. Did you know there is an overflow drain for the brake fluid? It works very well. So pinch the overflow tube. Second, don't put brake fluid into the pump - it is difficult to clean. Finally watch the fluid level in the reservoir, if it is too low air will come out the caliper you are bleeding - it really gets your attention.

PS. I just had my first oil change that did not require kitty litter <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" /> <img border="0" alt="[cheers]" title="" src="graemlins/beerchug.gif" />

RSAErick

I just purchased a Motive power bleeder, but haven't received it yet.

Let me get this straight... you don't put brake fluid IN the power bleeder? You just pressurize with air (being careful not to drain the reservoir). I figured that you filled the power bleeder with fluid and then pressurized it so that it would continually fill the reservoir with fluid. Was I wrong?

Thanks.
Erick

Barry Lenoble

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Originally posted by Greg Fishman:
<strong>Jim,
Excuse me if I don't relay the correct technical names of the components I speak of.
If you bleed the brakes the old fashioned way you will over extend the "plungers" in the master cylinder. This will shorten the life of it dramatically and possibly cause brake failure.

A pressure bleeder is easy and the correct method, so why do anything different?</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana,Tahoma,Helvetica">Greg,

I'm not an expert on the 993 brake system. However, I don't see how
pressing the brake pedal could over extend anything.

I do know that if your brake system is in poor condition, with sludge, grit
and other foreign materials in the hydraulic system, and you fully depress
the master cylinder, you can damage the seals because the cylinder may
have to push past crud / debris / etc in the bore. However, if your brake
system is in good condition, as it most certainly should be if you plan on
driving on the track, then you will NOT damage anything by using the
old tried and true 'pump the brakes' bleed method.

A pressure bleeder may work, but why spend money if you don't have to?

Barry