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Old 10-30-2006, 09:27 PM
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I attended a DE this past weekend and another driver was using anti-seize on his lug nuts...I've never seen this application. Is this recommended? Thanks ahead.
Old 10-30-2006, 09:58 PM
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Porsche calls for their mechanics to apply a little, so it can't be all bad. I don't find it necessary on lug nuts that are on and off all of the time though.
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I remember going to a DE at Taladega Gran Prix Raceway one time in January, after I had not changed tires since October.a I had to go to a Hardware store and buy one of those torches that you use in plumbing to heat the lug nuts so I could get them off. The stuff works, but as Bob W. says if you take your wheels off a lot, it is not necessary.

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Old 10-30-2006, 10:13 PM
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Only on the shoulder, not on the threads.
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UMMM
only on the threads not on the shoulders I think

on the shoulders would change the torque value...no?
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Originally Posted by DanS911
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only on the threads not on the shoulders I think

on the shoulders would change the torque value...no?
Excellent point, on your threads...never on your nuts.
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i use it all the time but becarful dropping them in the sandy pits!!!! use towel under true pita when u get sand on your bolts
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I use it on the threads every time I remember. The only downside is that is heats up, oozes out and make a mess on your wheels.
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I would put a little bit on each lug, once a year maybe and it would stay around for a long time.
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I take my wheels off too often for that...I'm just an old fart from the old school and like to torque the wheels to spec before each run...just my pref...
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Antiseize minimizes galling when metal-to-metal surfaces rub under high load. Lug nut threads and shoulders qualify when they're tightened to 95 ft.lbs., then the alloy wheel expands from heat.

Since aluminum nuts and steel studs are dissimiliar metals, they will corrode and co-mingle molecules without antiseize between them. Removing locked-in-place lug nuts is something you want to avoid.

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Originally Posted by Bull
Excellent point, on your threads...never on your nuts.
Never on your threads; always on your shoulders.
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anti-seize on his lug nuts...I've never seen this application. Is this recommended?
It's a "Porsche thing". The practice arises from Porsche using aluminum lug nuts. (Which I would not recommend with anything other than street tires.) They can gall, stick, and become a b!tch to remove.
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I did it once. Made a huge mess, especially when I dropped them in sand at VIR. I switched to steel nuts.
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If you run them dry you should switch to steel wheels too.


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