I agree with Jupe and 38. Do you really want to know??? Trust me, No!!

 

Hey, there may be a reason I'm nearly 36 and still use my college foot locker as my bed-side table. Now, what could that reason be...

 

can you get me a deal on a used foot locker? I don't have ANY end tables.....who needs furniture, anyway? It just takes up space.....I like Rich V's video where it says "my rolling 401K" ...at this point its probably cheaper to get my thrills smoking crack at a grand/day.

 

My girlfriend (not wife Larry, don't scare me like that) Karen and I discuss the fact that we could easily spend a week in Italy for the cost of a race trip from MN to Sebring or Daytona. Then we laugh about it and make our reservations for FL. I'm lucky to have found a race junkie that will hang out with me.
Jim

 

You are a lucky guy and not just because she likes to hang out at races!

 

wow.. you all make it sound like you need to sell a kidney to go racing... (any Dr's here do kidney removals? lol!)

Car 1984 944 (ok, so its not street legal, but it was).
Fuel $40
Consumables $100-300 (all the pads, tires, etc i wear down/break)
Trailering $100-300 (depends on how far away it is)
Entry fees $100-300


Although i do race a "cheap" car. I have dumped a lot of time, and more money than i care to think about into this car. Good luck with your aquiring process and

 

I have a 968 that I have progressed from a street car to a track car. It is still licensed but is not comfortable to drive on the street. Also it stands out with all the stickers and numbers on it.

At the nationals for NASA this year I spent:
entry fee $425.00
fuel $100
lodging $0000 slept in trailer
towing $120
food $50 dicount tickets and some dinners included
Hoosiers 1/2 $600
prerace alignment $200
fractional parts of brake pads, rotors, etc etc
Where do you stop!!!!!

Total=$1500

 

944 spec car
84 944
Stock motor using pump gas 91 octane
Stripped interior - removed everything that does not make the car go, but still with all stock steel body & glass
Basic suspension - Koni Yellow, 350lbs front springs, 30 mm t-bars, welt sways, camber plates
Stock driveline
Stock brakes with Hawk Blue pads, superblue fluid, SS lines
Tires 225/50 R15 Toyo RA-1's on 15x7 Wheels.

Here is my estimate of expeneses per weekend. Note NASA entry Fees are included in this, but travel/hotel costs are not.



A 944 spec car can be built for 7k to 12k depending if you do the labor or a shop does it. Built cars can be purchased in that same price range.

I built my at home and it is fully competitive car. Since 2002 I have run 59 races in the car with 3 DNF's and 1 DNS over that time. 1 of those DNF's was from running out of fuel.

Cars can remain street legal if you choose to and still fully competitive. I trailer my car by choice however.

more details at http://944spec.org

We have some 80+ cars built to the same spec all over the country and not even in Canada. Class is legal in NASA and PCA club racing.

 

'91 D class 964 Turbo
Entry Fee $500
MPSCs $600 ($1200 every other event)
Brake Pads $150 ($500 set every 3rd event)
Brake Rotors $250 ($1k every 4 events)
Gas $600
3 Nights Hotel $375
Food $150 (I get hungry )

Towing can be anywhere from $15 to $2k, depending on if I tow myself vs. pro trailering and alos how far the event is.

Speed costs money. The faster you want to go, the more it costs.

 

Sure, and what this list doesn't include are items such as: budget for engine rebuild, budget for trans rebuild, budget for "other maintainables" like CV joints, etc. I don't know any scenario where your towing cost is only $15, too.

Then, there are other things like the opportunity cost of the investment $ you are blowing by spending money on cars.

Trust me, I've made the comprehensive spreadsheet and it is ugly. As I said earlier, don't ask and never add it up...

 

Given where you live, POC runs most events that are convenient to you. You should take a look at recent race results to see what class folk are racing in. It would also help to head out to a race to watch and check out the cars in the paddock to see if you think a street legal car would be competitive (I doubt it).

PRC runs the most events in Northern CA and we seldom have street legal cars come out to race. PCA has maybe 2 races on the west coast each year so, to me, it doesn't make sense to build a car to PCA class rules. PRC has two classes that are designed to equalize the cars and keep cost contained. The faster the car you want, the more it will cost to build and maintain. A lot of the guys that race in PRC's Toyo-Spec class (GTS in the results) do so on a "modest" budget.

The cost of simply towing to the track, gas at the track, hotel, food, entry fees and consumables (longer wearing tires, brake pads, etc) is likely to run $1-$2k for any 911 based car. You can do things to make it a bit cheaper and it easily can be more depending on choices you make. Maintenance costs and repair costs really depend on how much you can do yourself and are not part of the $1-2k per weekend. I started with a budget of $10k for 10 weekends and have never done better than about $30k.

 

A pox on the house of the thread starter

I work hard not to add the costs up. It is truly absurd from a financial standpoint. I sometimes feel guilty that I am depriving my family due to my failure to invest the money I spend on this sport. Truly stunning. Oh well, better to die younger, happier and less wealthy than live a long miserable richer life.

 

The opportunity cost of your time counts as well. This past 7 months is my first in about 5 years without a race car. My business is up about 20% year to date.... Of course I have been bored to death....

 

This is an enormous expense that many do not take into account at all. At my age and the age of my children, I sometimes think the wisest thing to do would be to put the racing on hold for the moment. Too bad it is more addictive than crack.

 

That about sums it up. Legal crack.