Car for DE, NASA and track days
#1
Car for DE, NASA and track days
With the career looking a lot more secure now I am getting serious about a track toy. My criteria is as follows:
1. 911
2. Needs to be just barely street legal (in Georgia this gives you a lot of lattiude)
3. 81 or older (no emmisions inspection)
3. I love the looks of the RSR's with the ducktail.
I have several years of experience in Shifterkarts and Formula 2000. I want to be able to drive to the track, have fun and then drive home. No truck or trailer involved. I will not track my '97 Carerra "S" and no it's not for sale.
I can do both mechanical and body work, and don't mind "sweat equity" in the car as my funds are not unlimited.
Those of you out there with experience doing these events please chime in.
1. 911
2. Needs to be just barely street legal (in Georgia this gives you a lot of lattiude)
3. 81 or older (no emmisions inspection)
3. I love the looks of the RSR's with the ducktail.
I have several years of experience in Shifterkarts and Formula 2000. I want to be able to drive to the track, have fun and then drive home. No truck or trailer involved. I will not track my '97 Carerra "S" and no it's not for sale.
I can do both mechanical and body work, and don't mind "sweat equity" in the car as my funds are not unlimited.
Those of you out there with experience doing these events please chime in.
#2
Get an SC. Most bang for the buck, easy to work on & can be made fairly quick without bankrupting your budget.
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Larry Herman
2016 Ford Transit Connect Titanium LWB
2018 Tesla Model 3 - Electricity can be fun!
Retired Club Racer & National PCA Instructor
Past Flames:
1994 RS America Club Racer
2004 GT3 Track Car
1984 911 Carrera Club Racer
1974 914/4 2.0 Track Car
CLICK HERE to see some of my ancient racing videos.
#4
Thanks guys. While I was up at the Walter Mitty yesterday (at Road Atlanta) I looked at a '69 911 that was for sale. Very nicely done car, Gulf colors 2 liter. What blew me away was the price...$65,000 dollars!!
Does a vintage pedigree make that much difference? If I don't want to put my $50,000 993 on the track I am sure as hell not going to put 65K out there!
Does a vintage pedigree make that much difference? If I don't want to put my $50,000 993 on the track I am sure as hell not going to put 65K out there!
#5
Get a solid, stock SC and build it up for the track gradually, starting with safety equipment like seats, cage, and harnesses. Then add the front mount oil cooler and lighter bumper, 31/23mm torsion bars, re-valved Bilsteins, Smart Racing sways and camber bar, alignment/corner balance and semi-aggressive camber (so you don't eat your tires on the way to the track). Once you start it's going to eat money like a crazed Manhatten trophy wife so be prepared!
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Originally Posted by Gary R.
Get a solid, stock SC and build it up for the track gradually, starting with safety equipment like seats, cage, and harnesses. Then add the front mount oil cooler and lighter bumper, 31/23mm torsion bars, re-valved Bilsteins, Smart Racing sways and camber bar, corner balance and semi-aggressive camber (so you don't eat your tires on the way to the track). Once you start it's going to eat money like a crazed Manhatten trophy wife so be prepared!
#7
Originally Posted by mooty
good idea, but that doesn't really ease the pain. i belive earlyapex did exactly that and teh bill is 50k now and he's not done yet. but the car is hell nice though.
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#8
Originally Posted by Boulder GT3
Amen. You can end up with a nice car but if you really keep track of the mods the tab can be pretty scarey even with sweat equity. Plus you end up having to haul the car everywhere, it's down a lot and so on. I'm of the camp that says buy the car that is closest to what you absolutely want and take the time you save to work more at your primary income if that's feasible.
Couldn't be happier with the result.
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gary, you are right in your logic.
i am that way too, though some disagrees, i like to build it up with known quantity, the donar car, the parts and the builder....
i do try best to ignore the receipts.
i am that way too, though some disagrees, i like to build it up with known quantity, the donar car, the parts and the builder....
i do try best to ignore the receipts.
#10
Originally Posted by Gary R.
That can work as long as you know the difference between a properly built car and one that isn't.. I have seen a lot of cars for sale advertised as "set up track cars" when I was looking (and are out there now) that were, as I learned later, about as far from correctly built as humanly possible. I took the road of finding an "approved" doner car and having a top builder of older cars transform it as I obviously had no clue what was good and what wasn't at the time. I ended up spending about $5K more than what some of these other cars were asking but I know EXACTLY what is in the car and it performs well beyond my meager ability...
Couldn't be happier with the result.
Couldn't be happier with the result.
#11
Sounds like the SC gets a lot of nods. As for the building I really don't mind doing a good portion of the work. I share some shopspace with a couple of other car nuts and have access to a lift, welders, and ust about any tool that can be imagined. I am building a 2.1 liter 914-4 for a friend for auto-x now, just about to send the body out for paint after I did the rust repair.
It looks like there are a lot of options for bodywork for a SC out there. RSR style bumpers, fenders even the ducktail. I guess what I am looking for is a clean, but unloved SC. Don't care about the interior or paint. Front fenders can be rough as well. So long as it isn't eaten up with rust (like a 914!).
IS one year any better that the others? I do have a new set of Mahle Nicasil 95mm cylinders and pistons that I got for free. They were about to be thrown away from our old race shop when they were offered to me. I guess that saves me a few bucks off the price of a rebuild.
BTW what kind of power can a tuned 3 liter (that isn't subject to emmision testing) produce?
It looks like there are a lot of options for bodywork for a SC out there. RSR style bumpers, fenders even the ducktail. I guess what I am looking for is a clean, but unloved SC. Don't care about the interior or paint. Front fenders can be rough as well. So long as it isn't eaten up with rust (like a 914!).
IS one year any better that the others? I do have a new set of Mahle Nicasil 95mm cylinders and pistons that I got for free. They were about to be thrown away from our old race shop when they were offered to me. I guess that saves me a few bucks off the price of a rebuild.
BTW what kind of power can a tuned 3 liter (that isn't subject to emmision testing) produce?
#15
Originally Posted by Palting
If you all don't mind, what sort of money would a "solid, stock SC" demand, if I found one?