Car Project Completed (Pictures)
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Some folk like Geoffery have provided helpfull input, so I thought I'd provide few photos of the finished product.
My 964 has been revamped to fit the class rules for GT-Light (GTL) in PRC Racing. 993 GT2/RSR body kit from Getty design, Jongbloed wheels and R600 compound slicks (required for GTL). Weight removal round one results in 2535 lbs with 1/8th of a tank of gas and no driver weight.
I picked the car up on Thursday from Jerry Woods and went to Sears Point/Infineon to try it out. I've never driven there before so I have no pre-modification times for comparison. I was running 1:54s on Saturday after getting used to the track on Friday. The car should be capable of 1:48, so I have a way to go. Anyway, here are some photos.
Top of Turn 2:
Turn 11:
Heading down the carousel (Turn 6):
Just putt-putting along![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
Eating a Miata for lunch:
One down and one to go ...
Rennlist was very well represented, there were at least a dozen of us there!
My 964 has been revamped to fit the class rules for GT-Light (GTL) in PRC Racing. 993 GT2/RSR body kit from Getty design, Jongbloed wheels and R600 compound slicks (required for GTL). Weight removal round one results in 2535 lbs with 1/8th of a tank of gas and no driver weight.
I picked the car up on Thursday from Jerry Woods and went to Sears Point/Infineon to try it out. I've never driven there before so I have no pre-modification times for comparison. I was running 1:54s on Saturday after getting used to the track on Friday. The car should be capable of 1:48, so I have a way to go. Anyway, here are some photos.
Top of Turn 2:
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/turn2d.jpg)
Turn 11:
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/turn11b.jpg)
Heading down the carousel (Turn 6):
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/carousel1.jpg)
Just putt-putting along
![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/sideview.jpg)
Eating a Miata for lunch:
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/miatameat.jpg)
One down and one to go ...
![](http://forums.rennlist.com/upload/1down1togo.jpg)
Rennlist was very well represented, there were at least a dozen of us there!
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great meeting you and the new turtle
your car is so badass! how did the car feel after softening the sways? great lap times considering you just picked it up thursday ![Big Grin](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/biggrin.gif)
excellent pics from dave wong (as usual). hope i get my photo CD soon.
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excellent pics from dave wong (as usual). hope i get my photo CD soon.
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What's the last thing that goes through a bug's mind before it get's splattered on the new Turtle?
His arss.
Great car, Tom. I had a great time with you at the track and afterwards with Colm. The 993 guys couldn't mess things up. That's how good it was!
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Great car, Tom. I had a great time with you at the track and afterwards with Colm. The 993 guys couldn't mess things up. That's how good it was!
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Carlos: It was nice to meet you. I was a bit rushed and wish I had had more time to chat. Next time! After softening the front and firming the rear it was too loose. However, the pressures were too low (only 22 hot instead of 24) due to the change in conditions between Saturday and Sunday morning. I added air, but the rain came just before lunch and I was NOT going to risk the car so I called it a great weekend and headed home. I'm anxious to go to Thunderhill in a couple weeks as I certainly know that track and continuing to tune the Turtle and myself will be even more fun.
Eric: It was just good natured differences of opinion regarding various Porsche models.
God I had a great time. You need to get the car ready for Toyo spec and come run PRC.
Eric: It was just good natured differences of opinion regarding various Porsche models.
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Originally Posted by Tom W
I was running 1:54s on Saturday after getting used to the track on Friday. The car should be capable of 1:48, so I have a way to go.
Good luck and the car looks great!
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Kary: So I've been told. I was politely chastised and told if I cleaned up my driving with increased smoothness and slightly better lines, I should be down to 1:48 or less by a driver who's judgement I trust after he rode with me (and he's been pretty acturate so far). It's a car I plan to grow into. I'm a bit humbled by the notion that there are fast drivers and fast cars and the two are not necessarily directly correlated. I now have a very fast car and need to learn to be a better/faster driver. I'm told the car should be able to get 1:57's at Thunderhill. As I know that track, I'll find out how much I have to improve in a couple weeks.
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Wow Tom! You've taken The Turtle over to the dark side. It looks very mean and quick; you're going to have to have tons of fun learning the car all over again....
General rule, make only one suspension change at a time, then made additional adjustments as necessary. You'll know then which change lossened you up the most. I would imagine you'll want that rear bar full stiff, and much softer up front....
What size rims/tires are you running? They look great combined with that monster wing back there....
Congrats again, look forward to seeing you...
General rule, make only one suspension change at a time, then made additional adjustments as necessary. You'll know then which change lossened you up the most. I would imagine you'll want that rear bar full stiff, and much softer up front....
What size rims/tires are you running? They look great combined with that monster wing back there....
Congrats again, look forward to seeing you...
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Greg: I don't recall seeing it, but then I was a bit self-obsessed this weekend. ![Smilie](https://rennlist.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
JR: The rims are 11" and 13" (Jongbloed) to run the spec 10.5 and 12" bias ply R600 slicks. It weighs 2535 with 1/8 of a tank and no driver. More weight could be lost but that was our starting point. The engine (built last year) makes 294 at the flywheel on the engine dyno (limited by air intake/class rules). I was in favor of only a tweak to the front sway to get rid of some high-speed push, but the advice I got was to do both and evaluate from there. I'll see how it feels at Thunderhill in 2 weeks. IIRC, my bars are 25 and 23 and full firm in the back with that combo makes the (old version) car waaaay to tail happy. I had been running at full soft in the back and expect to return there. Are you only doing POC and PCA or will you join us for a few PRC races?
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JR: The rims are 11" and 13" (Jongbloed) to run the spec 10.5 and 12" bias ply R600 slicks. It weighs 2535 with 1/8 of a tank and no driver. More weight could be lost but that was our starting point. The engine (built last year) makes 294 at the flywheel on the engine dyno (limited by air intake/class rules). I was in favor of only a tweak to the front sway to get rid of some high-speed push, but the advice I got was to do both and evaluate from there. I'll see how it feels at Thunderhill in 2 weeks. IIRC, my bars are 25 and 23 and full firm in the back with that combo makes the (old version) car waaaay to tail happy. I had been running at full soft in the back and expect to return there. Are you only doing POC and PCA or will you join us for a few PRC races?
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Originally Posted by Tom W
Kary: So I've been told. I was politely chastised and told if I cleaned up my driving with increased smoothness and slightly better lines, I should be down to 1:48 or less by a driver who's judgement I trust after he rode with me (and he's been pretty acturate so far). It's a car I plan to grow into. I'm a bit humbled by the notion that there are fast drivers and fast cars and the two are not necessarily directly correlated. I now have a very fast car and need to learn to be a better/faster driver. I'm told the car should be able to get 1:57's at Thunderhill. As I know that track, I'll find out how much I have to improve in a couple weeks.
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Stunning car !
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Wow Tom, what a transformation! For those who haven't seen a "before" picture, this is the old turtle just a few months ago:
![](http://www.jeepvideos.com/mpeg/pics/050806-devek/DSC_0090mid.jpg)
That old rear spoiler is the height of modesty in comparison. Can't wait to see to see the new and improved version in person.
![](http://www.jeepvideos.com/mpeg/pics/050806-devek/DSC_0090mid.jpg)
That old rear spoiler is the height of modesty in comparison. Can't wait to see to see the new and improved version in person.