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Old 08-29-2005 | 02:36 PM
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Lookng for the best track tires for racing in the rain. What are the best non-DOT and DOT? The car is 993 TT with 18x9 front and 18x11 rears. I know I can do a search but there always seems to be new information out there.

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Old 08-29-2005 | 02:54 PM
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I have found the Dunlop Super Sport Race to work well in the wet. I use them when it is wet.
Old 08-29-2005 | 03:00 PM
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Hoosier makes the best DOT rain tire. Lots of options for non-DOT, basically the same options as slicks.
Old 08-29-2005 | 03:20 PM
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If you are going to race in the rain get the Hoosiers. IMHO, anything less and you are just putting your car at risk so that you can get your *** kicked by a guy running Hoosiers.
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I concur with the Hoosier rains. I'm a decent rain driver and usually run with the MPSC's. At the Mid Ohio Club Deluge - I mean Race - the guys on the Hoosiers Rains were just walking away from everybody - literally 10+ seconds faster a lap than anybody else. Me, I had to get my tires onto a concrete patch before I could turn into a corner, but those guys could go anywhere and did.
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Hoosiers, especially the DOT 'Dirt Stockers'. Unbelievable grip in the wet.
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Originally Posted by Cris Brady
I concur with the Hoosier rains. I'm a decent rain driver and usually run with the MPSC's. .
Yikes... those things don;t have any tread at all... plus, how do your get any heat in them.....I'd think they'd be nasty in the wet...
Old 08-29-2005 | 04:44 PM
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Yikes... those things don;t have any tread at all... plus, how do your get any heat in them.....I'd think they'd be nasty in the wet...
Well compared to normal Hoosiers, they're practically snow tires! Actually they're not too bad, and since I'm a wanna-be WRC rally driver I don't mind slipping and sliding around in the wet.

I agree, getting heat in the MPSC's is the key. A late fall Nov in the Northeast, rainy and cold, they're bricks. But then again, the track and weather is the same for everybody. The rain removes a lot of drivers from the pool anyway and as long as my tires are a little bit grippier and a little bit faster than the rest, I'm good.
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I have heard (but never tried) that hand cut MPSC's are good in the rain. Grooving evacuates the H2O better and the tread squirms more and builds heat easier.

Still have to believe that the Hoosier DOT Rain is the best for standing water. They must just melt away as soon as there's a drying line though.
Old 08-29-2005 | 05:15 PM
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Hand grooving tires is illegal in PCA stock classes, so I just run with what I got.

The cool thing about the MPSC's is that they work great as an intermediate tire. Dry, wet, it's all good.
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Toyo RA-1's also work well in the wet.
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Yea, I use unshaved Toyo RA1s for an intermediate tire and the Hoosier for wetter days.
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Originally Posted by Professor Helmüt Tester
Hoosiers, especially the DOT 'Dirt Stockers'. Unbelievable grip in the wet.
I've heard this in the past. What's the deal with these? Better then the Hoosier sports car wets, yes?
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This past weekend I ran in the wet with RA1s (full tread) on the front and Dunlop SSRs (nearly full tread) on the rear. Hands down the RA1s performed better.

However, the Hoosier wets are a step above even the RA1.
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I've run on both the MPSCs and the RA1s in the wet. The MPSCs work OK if you lower your starting pressures 2-3 psi. I know this is counter to what Michelin says but when I tried it their way (raising the starting pressures) they were terrible. Went the other direction and they worked pretty well. This was in heavy rain with standing water. The RA1s are better (less hydroplaning). I have heard the Hoosiers are better still.


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